GM 1 Strike Puts

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by TM1982, May 26, 2009.

  1. TM1982

    TM1982

    I can feel the tickle already.
     
    #31     May 26, 2009
  2. You're forgetting that the "1%" isn't news - hasn't been news for a long time - so has already been priced in.

    For the gov't stake to come out flat, the post-reorg market cap needs to be ~70B. Whether or not that happens is of course open to conjecture. One percent of that is $700M. There are approximately 600M shares outstanding, putting the value right around $1/share.

    Assuming something like the proposed deal goes down (adjusting the union percentage down and the bondholder percentage up) we're going to be looking at a huge enterprise with a very small tradable float to begin with. Will be interesting to watch the fireworks on that...

    Ain't that the truth! Said a long time ago GM was going to be the most entertaining trade story of '09, so far it hasn't disappointed. :)
     
    #32     May 26, 2009
  3. TM1982

    TM1982

    I'm going to sell some Dec 1 Calls today. Probably early in the morning.
     
    #33     May 27, 2009
  4. I think you all are crazy to mess with GM. You cant use any reason or logic with it. If you buy puts, its very likely that GM will declare BK and you make money. But you cant use logic like that. You got the "obama" factor. He could just come in and do something crazy like pay off the bondholders and forgive the debt.

    Seriously, don't put any real money into GM. Only put the same amount you are willing to blow in vegas as its all chance with GM right now. You cant use fundamentals with the crazy obama bailout factor.
     
    #34     May 27, 2009
  5. TM1982

    TM1982

    Buying June Puts will not work. The stock is not going to collapse overnight. It will be a slow arduous process!
     
    #35     May 27, 2009
  6. I don't know about this one today, doesn't look like it wants to go up or down, I'm lightening my positions.
     
    #36     May 27, 2009
  7. ellevers

    ellevers

    I also believe one of the reasons for the inflated price is how hard the stock is to borrow. With a rate near 100%, which the puts reflect in their price, and the fact that there are street side and firm buy ins everyday keeps the price up here.
     
    #37     May 27, 2009
  8. Been going on for 4 years now. Their time is up
     
    #38     May 28, 2009
  9. TM1982

    TM1982

    Really?
     
    #39     May 28, 2009
  10. WHO ARE THE BASTARDS BUYING THESE TODAY???

    It's obviously not going in the next 3 weeks now that the bondholder's reached an agreement. What do you all think?
     
    #40     May 28, 2009