GM 1 Strike Puts

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by TM1982, May 26, 2009.

  1. Kudos to TM. You'll probably end up making me a lot of money on this trade.

    I bought a ton of shares at 1.13 today.

    I got greedy and didn't dump any up at 1.8 and 1.7, but whatever.

    You think selling these puts are safer than owning the stock here, especially if I will be swing trading it?
     
    #21     May 26, 2009
  2. Daal

    Daal

    Market cap is about $900m, assuming current shareholders get 1% of the new GM, they are betting the new GM value will be about $90b. Sounds like denial to me
     
    #22     May 26, 2009
  3. AAA30

    AAA30

    Interesting stuff. Of course I will only watch but If this goes the BK route which I also think it will I am almost sure that the equity will be zero because the administration wants to punish the debt holders and they would need to be paid first before anything goes to equity or this thing will get held up in court for years. It seems like you are placing money on a major restructuring and no BK.
     
    #23     May 26, 2009
  4. LEAPup

    LEAPup

    I tend to agree.

    Btw, what are LEAPs on GM going for?
     
    #24     May 26, 2009
  5. MJ888

    MJ888

    TM, this looks like a very good trade. Too bad I didn't see this thread until after the markets closed. But I will look into it in the morning and hope to sell a bunch of $1 puts at around the same price as you did.

    Very low and defined risk as far as I am concerned. And I do agree that it will take at least another 90-120 days before anything final is done which will keep the share price above $1 for the time being.
     
    #25     May 26, 2009
  6. TM1982

    TM1982

    Stock is moving down in AH though on news that bondholders nixed the GM offer. That was the final piece that GM needed for a reorg and to save off bankruptcy.

    Thoughts?
     
    #26     May 26, 2009
  7. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/UAW-t...85.html?sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

    "But the UAW trust is getting far less in stock than GM said it would get previously. The company disclosed in regulatory filings that it was negotiating to give the government half its shares, with the union trust getting 39 percent. The remaining 1 percent would go to existing shareholders. Upon approval of the exchange, GM would issue 62 billion new shares, then do a 1-for-100 reverse stock split."

    Please explain to me how the shares can be worth anything more than a few pennies if this happens?

    Right now shareholders own 95% of the company and the stock is worth $1.50. reduce that by 99% and the shares become worth $0.02.

    I guess we'll see what happens...
     
    #27     May 26, 2009
  8. TM1982

    TM1982

    MUST,

    Stock hasn't completely tanked AH and my guess is that GM will extend the deadline for the bondholders till the end of the weekend. If this happens, I will sell the crap out of the Jan 2.5 Calls tomorrow morning.

    If they somehow reach a deal with bondholders tonight, then my puts are a winner.

    We will see.
     
    #28     May 26, 2009
  9. Good luck. I hope there's a way we can both win :)
     
    #29     May 26, 2009
  10. yes sir
     
    #30     May 26, 2009