now that is funny. you are aware that those who stole "our rights" so far were on the other side, namely on that which disagrees with global warming as being man made? and, which "rights" are you referring to? the right to waste and pollute until nothing is left? you are willing to die in heat and flood and mud ... as long as no one touched your "rights"? sorry to bring you up to date, but cowboy age is over ...
are u talking about the dems? lmao, what did they do to reverse what has been done. u gotta be kidding right? dems and reps are shills for the same hidden party that pulls all the strings. and u think u have choice right? u think that a bunch of filthy rich foreigners with no vested interested whatsoever in america sovereignty is dedicated to protect u and your interests? for what concerns your rights, go look what's the agenda of these arseholes, they made it clear for anyone willing to do some digging. scientists discovered the whole solar system is warming up, temperatures in even the most distant planets are rising dramatically...jupiter red spots and in particular the big stain are getting bigger and more turbulent, and that's because the sun is heating up...it's a seasonal thing. how do u reconcile it with man made slam dunk case?
i see where you are coming from, but for this kind of big conspiracy thing, i am the wrong counterpart i am afraid. take care.
this is what nice guy next door rockefeller wrote about schools and his education program, "the rockefeller education board": "In our dreams...people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present educational conventions [intellectual and character education] fade from our minds, and unhampered by tradition we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or men of science. We have not to raise up from among them authors, educators, poets or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians, nor lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we have ample supply. The task we set before ourselves is very simple...we will organize children...and teach them to do in a perfect way the things their fathers and mothers are doing in an imperfect way." These are the founders of the public education system in America. The agenda from the very start was to eliminate all forms of objective thought and use education to produce automatons of the state who would shrink from embracing higher forms of intellectual pursuit and truly understanding their role and potential to advance freedom in human society. off-topic but just so u get the drill how devious these guys are and how much influence they exercise on society as a whole. this is just one amongst many statements and examples coming out for the bastards belonging to all those phoney, fraudulent pseudo agencies of government like the cfr. go look for more quotes, they are appaling.
i have a five year old girl. the only thing i am trying to "educate" her in is being herself. (yet that sounds easier than it is.) i am afraid many parents are to good obedients to the overall system.
WHAT A F_ING JOKE!!!!!!! Group: Gore a hypocrite over power bill By KRISTIN M. HALL, Associated Press Writer Tue Feb 27, 6:10 PM ET NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Al Gore, a leading voice in the fight against global warming, is being called a hypocrite by a conservative group that claims his Nashville mansion uses too much electricity. But a spokeswoman for Gore said the former vice president invests in enough renewable energy to make up for the home's power consumption. Gore's documentary film "An Inconvenient Truth" won an Oscar on Sunday for chronicling his campaign against global warming. The next day, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research put out a news release saying Gore was not doing enough to reduce his own consumption of electricity. "We wanted to see if he was living by his own recommendations and walking the walk," said Drew Johnson, president of the think tank that pushes for conservative economic issues. Utility records show the Gore family paid an average monthly electric bill of about $1,200 last year for its 10,000-square foot home. The Gores used about 191,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, according to bills reviewed by The Associated Press spanning the period from Feb. 3, 2006, to Jan. 5. That is far more than the typical Nashville household, which uses about 15,600 kilowatt-hours per year. A spokeswoman for Gore said he purchases enough "green power" â renewable energy sources such as solar, wind and methane gas â to balance 100 percent of his electricity costs. "Sometimes when people don't like the message, in this case that global warming is real, it's convenient to attack the messenger," Gore spokeswoman Kalee Kreider said. Gore participates in a utility program that sells blocks of "green power" for an extra $4 a month. Gore purchases 108 such blocks every month, covering 16,200 kilowatt-hours and helping subsidize renewable energy sources. Johnson said it's unclear whether global warming is caused by humans, and he said the threat outlined in Gore's documentary is exaggerated. The think tank said Gore used nearly 221,000 kilowatt hours last year and that his average monthly electric bill was $1,359. Johnson said his group got its figures from Nashville Electric Service. But electric company spokeswoman Laurie Parker said the utility never got a request from the policy center and never provided them with any information. Parker said Gore has been purchasing the "green power" for $432 a month since November. The Gore home is also under renovation to add solar panels, Kreider said. Gore also owns homes in Carthage, Tenn., and in the Washington area. Gore has said he leads a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." To balance out other carbon emissions, the Gores invest money in projects to reduce energy consumption around the globe, Kreider said. "For every ton of carbon they emit, he offsets that by doing investments in renewable energy sources," Kreider said. Johnson said those efforts were unconvincing. "In general, I applaud his efforts to reduce energy consumption, but if he is going to be a spokesman for global warming, he has to be willing to make the same sacrifices," Johnson said. Johnson said Gore's home has gas lamps lining his driveway, a heated pool and an electric gate â all of which would be easy to do without. "He's not doing enough in his home to be going around telling other people how to reduce consumption," Johnson said. Focusing on Gore's personal electricity consumption misses the point of "An Inconvenient Truth," Kreider said, which is that governments and the public can work together to reduce emissions. ___
http://www.alertnet.org/printable.htm?URL=/thenews/newsdesk/L02253037.htm Hey, man, this post is for you you preaching sophisticated European dude!!! I have read elsewhere, to just reduce emissions by 1-2 % it would cost 1% of GDP (western nations). Now imagine if we really want to make difference to tackle the problem which we aren't even sure to what extend people actually cause. This is for all the religious sheep following Saint "the dumbass" Gore.
Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says Kate Ravilious National Geographic News Friday, March 2, 2007 Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a naturalâand not a human- inducedâcause, according to one scientist's controversial theory. Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures. In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row. Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun. "The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said. Solar Cycles Abdussamatov believes that changes in the sun's heat output can account for almost all the climate changes we see on both planets. Mars and Earth, for instance, have experienced periodic ice ages throughout their histories. "Man-made greenhouse warming has made a small contribution to the warming seen on Earth in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance," Abdussamatov said. By studying fluctuations in the warmth of the sun, Abdussamatov believes he can see a pattern that fits with the ups and downs in climate we see on Earth and Mars. Abdussamatov's work, however, has not been well received by other climate scientists. "His views are completely at odds with the mainstream scientific opinion," said Colin Wilson, a planetary physicist at England's Oxford University. "And they contradict the extensive evidence presented in the most recent IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] report." Amato Evan, a climate scientist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, added that "the idea just isn't supported by the theory or by the observations." Planets' Wobbles The conventional theory is that climate changes on Mars can be explained primarily by small alterations in the planet's orbit and tilt, not by changes in the sun. "Wobbles in the orbit of Mars are the main cause of its climate change in the current era," Oxford's Wilson explained. (Related: "Don't Blame Sun for Global Warming, Study Says" [September 13, 2006].) All planets experience a few wobbles as they make their journey around the sun. Earth's wobbles are known as Milankovitch cycles and occur on time scales of between 20,000 and 100,000 years. These fluctuations change the tilt of Earth's axis and its distance from the sun and are thought to be responsible for the waxing and waning of ice ages on Earth. Mars and Earth wobble in different ways, and most scientists think it is pure coincidence that both planets are between ice ages right now. "Mars has no [large] moon, which makes its wobbles much larger, and hence the swings in climate are greater too," Wilson said. No Greenhouse Perhaps the biggest stumbling block in Abdussamatov's theory is his dismissal of the greenhouse effect, in which atmospheric gases such as carbon dioxide help keep heat trapped near the planet's surface. He claims that carbon dioxide has only a small influence on Earth's climate and virtually no influence on Mars. But "without the greenhouse effect there would be very little, if any, life on Earth, since our planet would pretty much be a big ball of ice," said Evan, of the University of Wisconsin. Most scientists now fear that the massive amount of carbon dioxide humans are pumping into the air will lead to a catastrophic rise in Earth's temperatures, dramatically raising sea levels as glaciers melt and leading to extreme weather worldwide. Abdussamatov remains contrarian, however, suggesting that the sun holds something quite different in store. "The solar irradiance began to drop in the 1990s, and a minimum will be reached by approximately 2040," Abdussamatov said. "It will cause a steep cooling of the climate on Earth in 15 to 20 years."
You should take a look at this article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ogy.html?in_article_id=440049&in_page_id=1965 The UN report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was published in February. At the time it was promoted as being backed by more than 2,000 of the world's leading scientists. But Professor Paul Reiter, of the Pasteur Institute in Paris, said it was a "sham" given that this list included the names of scientists who disagreed with its findings. Professor Reiter, an expert in malaria, said his name was removed from an assessment only when he threatened legal action against the panel. "That is how they make it seem that all the top scientists are agreed," he said. "It's not true." ------------------------------ Of course, the political currency created by global warming trumps actual science in this matter. Thus the environmental jihad continues. I think that Claude Allegre's comments are very good ones in the recent article written about him: http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=2f4cc62e-5b0d-4b59-8705-fc28f14da388 Calling the arguments of those who see catastrophe in climate change "simplistic and obscuring the true dangers," Dr. Allegre especially despairs at "the greenhouse-gas fanatics whose proclamations consist in denouncing man's role on the climate without doing anything about it except organizing conferences and preparing protocols that become dead letters." The world would be better off, Dr. Allegre believes, if these "denouncers" became less political and more practical, by proposing practical solutions to head off the dangers they see, such as developing technologies to sequester C02. His dream, he says, is to see "ecology become the engine of economic development and not an artificial obstacle that creates fear." ------------------------------------------------------ Watch as the environmentalists who used to quote Allegre turn around and call him a heritic now.