Global Warming paradox

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ChkitOut, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. olias

    olias

    pretty good analogy
     
    #41     Feb 3, 2011
  2. olias

    olias

    from your link "Geophysicist Dr. Claude Allegre, a top geophysicist and French Socialist who has authored more than 100 scientific articles and written 11 books and received numerous scientific awards including the Goldschmidt Medal from the Geochemical Society of the United States, converted from climate alarmist to skeptic in 2006"...

    took me 7 seconds to find:
    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/04/claude-allegre-the-climate-imposter/

    "The latest example is that of Claude Allègre – whose recent book “The climate imposture” would have you believe at least six impossible things before breakfast and a great many more before dinner. This is notable because Allègre is one of the most eminent figures in science communication in France, Academie de Sciences member, Crafoord prize winner, former minister of education and research and a fixture on the late night talk shows in France (including a topical satirical version of the ‘muppets’). One might expect a certain degree of rigour from an author with such a pedigree, but on the contrary, nearly every explanation, graphic, or citation in this book is misleading or just plain wrong. If Allègre was not such a high profile figure in France, this nonsense would have been dismissed and ignored, instead, it is regular fodder for the late night talk shows. In my entire career I have never seen so many factual errors in a single publication. It is truly a remarkable work!

    It is practically impossible to give a complete overview of what is wrong with the Allègre’s book. However, some people have made a good start: Stephane Foucart, a science journalist at Le Monde, wrote a piece on Le cent-fautes de Claude Allegre (the ‘Hundred Errors’ – this is a play on words, ‘un sans-faute’ (pronounced the same way) means a perfect score) and Sylvestre Huet from the Liberation started a series of debunkings and is now at part five (also in French) and which he has turned into a short book! I started my own list of errors here (in German).

    One of the more egregious examples of blatant making stuff up was covered by Science last week (following on from a post by Huet who revealed that Allègre had hand-drawn a continuation of tree-ring data from Hakan Grudd to show cooling over the 21st Century – something of course that no trees could possibly show (at least yet!). Even before Allegre “improved” the data by drawing in an extension more to his liking, the implication that Grudd’s work in any way challenges the prevailing view of unusual large scale warming in recent years was highly misleading. Grudd’s paper (available here, open access) deals solely with summer temperatures at Lake Tornetrask in Northern Sweden, and the paper states clearly that “although the climate of northern Fennoscandia seems to have been significantly warmer during medieval times as compared to the late-twentieth century, the published composite records of northern hemisphere climate (Moberg et al. 2005) do not show a conspicuously warm period around AD 1000.” Once again, Allègre has shown himself willing to jump on any curve “going my way,” regardless of its relevance."
     
    #42     Feb 3, 2011
  3. pspr

    pspr

    Your attempt to debunk the article would require a lot more evidence than that simple story from someone who doesn't like the fact that the scientist changed his vew. There are many TOP scientists who have changed their minds in the Senate article and no longer support man made global warming. So, get over it. You are wrong.
     
    #43     Feb 3, 2011
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    Again, are we arguing that the Earth is warming, or are we arguing that Man is causing the Earth to warm?
     
    #44     Feb 3, 2011
  5. #45     Feb 3, 2011
  6. These leftists don't care. They believe man can change the earth! [​IMG]
     
    #46     Feb 3, 2011
  7. pspr

    pspr

    Did you get lost again? :D I don't disagree that there has been some warming in the oceans which has been going on since the Maunder Minimum. But I disagree that man or man-made CO2 has caused this or that it is anything more than cyclic activity in the Sun and the oceans.

    Besides, there is no argument. I am right.
     
    #47     Feb 3, 2011
  8. Explain how the Global Warming fraud is screwing America?
     
    #48     Feb 3, 2011
  9. pspr

    pspr

    The UN wants $100B per year from us to GIVE to other nations because of our "global warming" footprint.
    http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...se-in-on-pact-to-create-100-billion-fund.html

    Obama circumvents Congress to enact Cap & Tax to tax energy and cap emissions through the EPA.
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs...warming-rules-january-gives-ge-exemption-febr

    Obama Says Energy Prices Will Skyrocket under His Plan

    <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/HlTxGHn4sH4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Just for starters.
     
    #49     Feb 3, 2011
  10. See above post by pspr. Geez, were you born yesterday? [​IMG]
     
    #50     Feb 3, 2011