Global warming LOL (part 3) -Scientist admit they were wrong

Discussion in 'Politics' started by John_Wensink, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    And this is coming from a clown who does not know the difference between 97% and 0.3%.
     
    #51     Oct 1, 2013
  2. jem

    jem

    you are right... we have been through this..

    The new better satellite data shows antartica has been gaining ice.


    I linked to this the last time you made this argument...


    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/09/...ins-of-the-antarctic-ice-sheet-exceed-losses/

    The results of ICEsat measurements are in for Antarctica, and it seems those claims of ice mass loss in Antarctica have melted now that a continent wide tally has been made. This was presented in the SCAR ISMASS Workshop in Portland, OR, July 14, 2012 and was added to NASA’s Technical Reports server on September 7th, 2012. H/T to WUWT reader “Brad”. What’s interesting (besides the result) is that the report was prepared by Jay Zwally, whose “ice free Arctic by the end of summer 2012″ prediction is about to be tested in 12 days. It also puts the kibosh on GRACE studies that suggested a net loss in Antarctica. Note there’s the mention of the “climate warming, consistent with model predictions” at the end of the report. They’d say the same thing if ICEsat had measured loss instead of gain, because as we’ve seen before, almost everything is consistent with warming and models no matter which direction it goes.





     
    #52     Oct 1, 2013
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    Arctic ice, melting fast.
    Northern hemisphere glaciers, melting fast.
    Equatorial glaciers, melting fast.
    Andes glaciers, melting fast.
    African glaciers, melting fast.
    Australian glaciers, gone.
    Antarctic glaciers, "a slow increase in snowfall with climate warming, consistent with model predictions, may be offsetting increased dynamic losses."

    Good enough.
     
    #53     Oct 1, 2013
  4. jem

    jem

    here is the abstract...

    Abstract:

    During 2003 to 2008, the mass gain of the Antarctic ice sheet from snow accumulation exceeded the mass loss from ice discharge by 49 Gt/yr (2.5% of input), as derived from ICESat laser measurements of elevation change. The net gain (86 Gt/yr) over the West Antarctic (WA) and East Antarctic ice sheets (WA and EA) is essentially unchanged from revised results for 1992 to 2001 from ERS radar altimetry.

    Imbalances in individual drainage systems (DS) are large (-68% to +103% of input), as are temporal changes (-39% to +44%). The recent 90 Gt/yr loss from three DS (Pine Island, Thwaites-Smith, and Marie-Bryd Coast) of WA exceeds the earlier 61 Gt/yr loss, consistent with reports of accelerating ice flow and dynamic thinning. Similarly, the recent 24 Gt/yr loss from three DS in the Antarctic Peninsula (AP) is consistent with glacier accelerations following breakup of the Larsen B and other ice shelves. In contrast, net increases in the five other DS of WA and AP and three of the 16 DS in East Antarctica (EA) exceed the increased losses.

    Alternate interpretations of the mass changes driven by accumulation variations are given using results from atmospheric-model re-analysis and a parameterization based on 5% change in accumulation per degree of observed surface temperature change. A slow increase in snowfall with climate warming, consistent with model predictions, may be offsetting increased dynamic losses.

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    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/09/...ins-of-the-antarctic-ice-sheet-exceed-losses/
     
    #54     Oct 1, 2013
  5. Antarctic land ice melting is allowing the sea ice to grow. The cold fresh water floats above the denser sea water and freezes more easily. Net result is Antarctica is melting because the land ice is the big one. But of course the only thing one hears from the AGW deliars is how the "ice is growing".
     
    #55     Oct 1, 2013
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    Shrug. Even granting that wuwt is reporting objectively (I'm not inclined to dig deeper tonight) there is no support for a "there is no global warming" claim. Yes, I know that's not your position.
     
    #56     Oct 1, 2013
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Arctic ice, increased by 60% in the last year
    Northern hemisphere glaciers, increased in 2012/2013
    Equatorial glaciers, melting fast - 'duh - its hot at the equator, eh?'
    Andes glaciers, stable in 2012/2013
    African glaciers, melting
    Australian glaciers, gone in 20,000BC - must be due to man
    Antarctic glaciers - increasing

    Fixed that for you!


    Why are there no glaciers in Australia?
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_are_there_no_glaciers_in_Australia
     
    #57     Oct 1, 2013
  8. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Rectum sure stepped in his own shit on that one.
     
    #58     Oct 1, 2013
  9. Wow Artic ice increased 60% in the last year? You mean 6 decades of loss were made up?

    Like I said before. You are an idiot.
     
    #59     Oct 1, 2013
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    This is an example of why you are so bad at math.

    Do you know the difference between 97% and 0.3%?
     
    #60     Oct 1, 2013