Question is not whether or not climate change is, and has always been (since well before the use of carbon based fuel) real. It's whether or not it's anthropogenic. That's the real debate here. Temperatures have been much higher previously in recorded history. Yet, we're all still here, and doing okay for the most part...
If most are paying more I don't see how that would mean a larger deficit. Seems contradictory to me. Seems like an exaggerated claim to me. Technically no but now we're just talking semantics. I've maintained pretty much from the start I have no issue with a sliding scale. Common ground!
I can see you are the type that is not capable of thinking in systems and change challenges you. You do not see that a good portion of our industrial base and jobs were transferred out as why we let the asian "tigers" and china... protect their industries and our industries. And you think it is a good idea to let china manipulate the currency market.
This is clearly true. I only work with systems that change on a daily basis. I fear change, and fire. I'm not sure how you read that into my posts when clearly my posts were communicating that I think it is a good idea to allow bears to marry.
Because to increase federal income taxes from 0% net to 17% for families of four with $50,000 worth of income is simply unworkable. So guess what will happen? That's right, the Republicans will just bill it to our kids. Great -- it's good to find common ground -- now how do you feel about marrying bears?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Holocene_Temperature_Variations.png I guess your idea of recorded is different than others. By the way have you explained why ice core studies show temperature rise precedes CO2 accumulation.
You question the suggestion tariff's instead of income taxes with a smart ass comment and now you dodge the issue.
I don't understand why they aren't paying taxes - like the rest of us. Maybe not 17% but they should be paying something. Haven't given it much thought frankly. Although I was married to a mad cow for 12 years.