Global Warming: For Experts Only

Discussion in 'Politics' started by julianVGS, Sep 5, 2017.

  1. jem

    jem

    you ignorant troll. from what I just quickly read your article did not deny that NOAA adjusted the data up by 1.5 degrees. It simply stated that over a very short period of time it looked to them like the adjustments were good.

    your article focused on data from 2004 to 2015.
    While the article I cited looked at a period of about 1890 to 2016.







     
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    #661     Jan 2, 2018
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  2. You are a spreader of lies that you know are lies. You are a liar. You use shit propaganda sources and crappy psuedo-science. You lie.
     
    #662     Jan 2, 2018

  3. Yet NO climate scientist agrees with you, idiot. None.

    Let's check out "climatologist" Cliff Harris, that did that absurd chart above.

    Google sez..........

    Why Do Conservatives Deny Global Warming?

    Well, I can't pretend to know the answer to that question but after I "stumbled" across the following chart, I realized that conservatives may be deluding themselves with false data. Reproduced below, this chart suggests that there has not been an increase in global temperature changes over the last 4500 or so years. The moment I saw this graph, the hair began to rise on the back of my neck. First, anybody that shows a graph without indicating the units of the y-axis has something to hide. Second, to depict something as variable and complex a global temperature as such a smooth curve suggests dishonesty. Third, the labeling of the chart with the words "Nomanic Time" in bold is bizarre What is Nomanic? Fourth, why does this data go back only 4500 years? Most sources of climate data that goes back several thousand years also include data that go much further back. Fifth where did this data come from? It looks nothing like any climate data that I have seen. Finally, who on earth are Climatologist Cliff Harris & Metereologist Randy Mann? Well keep reading if you are at all interested.


    If you look very carefully at the graph, you will find that the baseline of the graph is 57˚F (label on the far right) and there was a point labeled 58˚F for now. They are reporting huge shifts of average global temperature which vary at most a couple tenths of degrees from year to year. The absence of normal variations that one sees in temperature charts indicates that the data must have been made up. Regarding "nomanic times", the Scythians are known as "nomanic invaders" but this is a esoteric word used mostly by historians referring to an obscure Iran-Afghan race. Perhaps it was a mispelling for "nomadic" and a period when the ancient Hebrews were nomadic. This also is consistent with a mostly biblical time line of the earth. The source of the data for the graph is unclear. Finally, if you look up Cliff Harris and Randy Mann, you will find that they are two guys who run a website http://www.longrangeweather.com/About-Us.htm and that neither are trained as a climatologist or a metereologist, unless one considered appearing on television to report weather or studying geology to be training for such a field. Harris apparently is a conservative Christian who believes in looking in the Bible for clues on what the weather will be (Source).

    Here are some real data from Nasa and other sources concerning the climate change. You can see that they are very different looking from the graph above.


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    You deniers are so dumb and gullible. Goes along with being deluded ignorant religitards. Yeah man can't change the climate, only Jesus can huh? LOL
     
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  4. jem

    jem

    why do agw nutter morons make statements about man made co2 causing warming when there is no peer reviewed science not relying on failed models stating it.

    even their lie of a consensus says man may be causing warming. its not a consensus that man made co2 is causing warming.
     
    #664     Jan 3, 2018
  5. jem

    jem

    ridiculous... most if not all of that critique is pure garbage.
    Why not discuss the fact that if you were to review the chart against the proxy data.. you might have to agree with it.

    there are arguments about how warm previous warming periods were.
    realizing that the temperature going back in time is all based on proxies...
    and the many of the proxies today indicate we are still inside previous warm periods

    would let the average person realize... we don't really know if we are warming outside of previous warm periods or not.





     
    #665     Jan 3, 2018


  6. Liar. and your sources are bullshit propaganda. You quote some idiot because he has a website. That's all you need. Pathetic. You are a liar.


    NO PUBLISHING CLIMATE SCIENTIST DENIES MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING. THE CONSENSUS IS ESSENTIALLY 100%

    Google it. Not that it would matter, you will continue to lie.
     
    #666     Jan 3, 2018
  7. China, Moving to Cut Emissions, Halts Production of 500 Car Models

    China is suspending the production of more than 500 car models and model versions that do not meet its fuel economy standards, several automakers confirmed Tuesday, the latest move by Beijing to reduce emissions in the world’s largest auto market and take the lead in battling climate change.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/...on.html&eventName=Watching-article-click&_r=0
     
    #667     Jan 3, 2018
  8. jem

    jem

    and the consensus speaks to man causing warming not man made co2.
    even your misrepresentations are misrepresentations.
    there is no peer reviewed science showing man made co2 causes warming wich is not based on now failed models.

    There are thousands of skeptical scientists... you know those who state there is no science showing man made co2 is causing warming or significant warming.
    google it.

     
    #668     Jan 3, 2018
  9. We have been saved. That was a close one.

    This is an example of a study that has been expected to cover up the bullshit called global warming.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ts-say/?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.3e737000e646

    Scientists have found large increases snow accumulation in a vast region of eastern Antarctica, a trend that, if it continues or becomes more widespread, could lessen the ice sheet’s contribution to sea level rise and possibly help mitigate one of the most feared consequences of climate change.

    The new study, conducted by scientists from NASA and several other institutions, examined snowfall in western Queen Maud Land, an area due south of the southern tip of Africa that is warming rapidly and contains 7 percent of Antarctica’s ice overall.
     
    #669     Jan 3, 2018

  10. Man caused release of greenhouse gasses you liar. Most of that is CO2. Liar. You've seen a dozen times and still you lie about it. You are no Christian.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
     
    #670     Jan 3, 2018