Global Warming: For Experts Only

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  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes, and there are thousands of peer reviewed scientific papers that cast doubt on AGW theory. We are provided links to all of these papers previously.

    Trying to tie "climate change" hypotheses where the science is not settled to gravitational theory where the science is pretty much settled is like comparing a duck to mongoose.
     
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  2. stu

    stu

    Is it to to with solar effect or not! If it is, the science, you know that stuff in the Royal Society, it does not support what he claims.

    Oh come on piezoe, Salby's beliefs are not enough. He has not produced any paper for peer review on his beliefs, while scientific evidence directly contradicts his beliefs!
     
    #262     Nov 20, 2017
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Stu, I have respect for you but I don't have infinite patience. Statement such as this that you have posted do not reflect well on the knowledge you bring to these forums.

    "...and don't publish as thousands of other scientists have"

    See below. As a scientist I don't mind informing you that this is, allowing for shaviv's current age ~45, one of the most illustrious publication records in all of physics, and he has at least another twenty years to go in his career!
    (By the way, Murry Salby also has published widely. He has over 100 publications and has written 5 books.)

    In rfereed Journals: (This is not entirely up to date)
    1. C. Elphick, O. Regev, N. J. Shaviv,
      “Dynamics of Fronts in Thermally Bistable Fluids”,
      The Astrophysical Journal, 392, 106, 1992 [ADS]
    2. N. J. Shaviv & G. Shaviv,
      “The Mass Distribution in a Merger Model”,
      The Astrophysical Journal Letters, 412, L25, 1993 [ADS]
    3. V. Aharonson, O. Regev & N. J. Shaviv,
      “Pattern Evolution in Thermally Bistable Media”,
      The Astrophysical Journal, 426, 621, 1994 [ADS]
    4. N. J. Shaviv & O. Regev,
      “Interface Dynamics and Domain Growth in Thermally Bistable Fluids”,
      Physical Review E, 50, 2048, 1994 [ADS]
    5. N. J. Shaviv & A. Dar,
      “Gamma Ray Bursts from Minijets”,
      The Astrophysical Journal, 447, 863, 1995 [ADS]
    6. N. J. Shaviv & G. Shaviv,
      “The Galaxy Mass Distribution in a Collapsing Spherical Cluster”,
      The Astrophysical Journal, 448, 514, 1995 [ADS]
    7. N. J. Shaviv & A. Dar ,
      “Fireballs in Dense Stellar Regions as an Explanation of Gamma-Ray Bursts”,
      Mon. Not. of the Royal Astr. Soc., 277, 287, 1995 [ADS]
    8. A. Dar & N. J. Shaviv,
      “The Extragalactic Neutrino Background Radiation from Blazars and Cosmic Rays”,
      Astroparticle Physics 4, 343, 1996 [ADS]
    9. A. Dar & N. J. Shaviv,
      “Origin of the High Energy Extragalactic Diffuse Gamma Ray Background”,
      Physical Review Lett., 75, 3052, 1995 [ADS]
    10. A. Dar & N. J. Shaviv,
      “Origin of the high Energy diffuse gamma-ray background - Reply”,
      Phys. Rev. Let. (Comments), 76, 3879, 1996 [ADS]
    11. N. J. Shaviv & G. Shaviv,
      “Thermonuclear Reaction Rates in Dense Astrophysical Plasmas: I”,
      The Astrophysical Journal, 468, 433, 1996 [ADS]
    12. N. J. Shaviv,
      “The Eddington Luminosity in Multiphased Media”,
      The Astrophysical Journal Letters, 494, 193, 1998 [ADS]
    13. N. J. Shaviv,
      “Can Nonlinear Structure Form at the Era of Decoupling?”,
      Mon. Not. of the Royal Astr. Soc., 297, 1245, 1998 [ADS]
    14. A. Dar, A. Laor & N. J. Shaviv,
      “Life extinctions by cosmic ray jets”,
      Physical Review Letters, 80, 5813, 1998 [ADS]
    15. Adelberger et al. (including N. J. Shaviv ),
      “Nuclear fusion cross-sections”,
      Reviews of Modern Physics, 70, 1265, 1998 (review) [ADS]
    16. N. J. Shaviv, J. S. & Y. Lithwick,
      “Magnetic Lensing near Ultramagnetized Neutron Stars”,
      Mon. Not. of the Roy. Ast. Soc., 306, 333, 1999 [ADS]
    17. G. Shaviv & N. J. Shaviv,
      “Is there a Dynamical Effect in the Screening of Nuclear Reactions in Stellar Plasmas?”,
      The Astrophysical Journal, 529, 1054, 2000 [ADS]
    18. J. S. Heyl & N. J. Shaviv,
      “Polarization evolution in strong magnetric fields”,
      Mon. Not. of the Roy. Ast. Soc., 311, 555, 2000 [ADS]
    19. N. J. Shaviv,
      “The Porous Atmosphere of η-Carinae”,
      The Astrophysical Journal Letters, 532, L137, 2000 [ADS]
    20. N. J. Shaviv,
      “The Nature of Instabilities in Radiatively supported Thomson Atmospheres”,
      The Astrophysical Journal, 549, 1093, 2001 [ADS]
    21. N. J. Shaviv,
      “The Theory of Steady State Super Eddington Winds and its Application to Novae”,
      Mon. Not. of the Roy. Ast. Soc., 326, 126, 2001 [ADS]
    22. N. J. Shaviv & G. Shaviv,
      “Dynamic Screening Corrections to the Nuclear Reactions in the Sun”,
      The Astrophysical Journal, 558, 925, 2001 [ADS]
    23. J. S. Heyl & N. J. Shaviv,
      “QED and the High Polarization of the Thermal Radiation from Neutron Stars”,
      Physical Review D, 66, 023002, 2002 [ADS]
    24. N. J. Shaviv,
      “Cosmic Ray Diffusion from the Galactic Spiral Arms, Iron Meteorites and a possible Climatic Connection”,
      Physical Review Letters, 89, 051102, 2002 [ADS]
    25. N. J. Shaviv,
      “The Spiral Structure of the Milky Way, Cosmic-Rays and Ice-Age Epochs on Earth”,
      New Astronomy, 8, 39, 2003 [ADS]
    26. N. J. Shaviv & G. Shaviv,
      “The State of Be7 in the Core of the Sun and the Solar Neutrino Flux”,
      Mon. Not. Roy. Astr. Soc., 341, 119, 2003 [ADS]
    27. J. S. Heyl, N. J. Shaviv & D. Lloyd,
      “The High-Energy Polarization-Limiting Radius of Neutron Star Magnetospheres: I. Slowly Rotating Neutron Stars”,
      Mon. Not. Roy. Astr. Soc., 342, 134, 2003 [ADS]
    28. N. J. Shaviv & J. Veizer,
      “Celestial Driver of Phanerozoic Climate?”,
      GSA Today, 13, July, 4-10, 2003 [GSA Site]
    29. N. J. Shaviv & J. Veizer,
      “Comments on ‘Cosmic rays, carbon dioxide and climate’ by Royer et al.”,
      GSA Today, 14, 18, 2004. [pdf]
    30. N. J. Shaviv & J. Veizer,
      “Comments on ‘Cosmic rays, carbon dioxide and climate’ by Rahmstorf et al.”,
      EOS Trans. AGU, 85, 511, 2004. [pdf]
    31. G. Shaviv, N. J. Shaviv,
      “Why the Salpeter approximation is not valid in the Sun” ,
      J. Physics A., 36, 6187, 2003 [ads]
    32. N. J. Shaviv,
      “Toward a Solution to the Faint Sun Paradox – A Lower Cosmic Ray flux from a Stronger Solar Wind”,
      J. Geophys. Res.–Space Phys., 108 (A12), 1437, doi:10.1029 / 2003JA009997, 2003 [ADS]
    33. S. P. Owocki, K. G. Gayley & N. J. Shaviv ,
      “A Power Law Porosity Formalism for Continuum-Driven Mass Loss from Stars above the Eddington Limit”,
      The Astrophys. Journal, 616, 525, 2004 [ADS]
    34. T. Piran & N. J. Shaviv,
      “The Low Mass Progenitor of the Binary Pulsar J0737-3039B – Evidence for a New Type of Stellar Collapse”,
      Phys. Rev. Lett., 94, 051102, 2005 [ADS]
    35. N. J. Shaviv,
      “On Climate Response to Changes in the Cosmic Ray Flux and Radiative Budget”,
      J. Geophys. Res.–Space Phys., 110 (A8), A08105, doi:10.1029 / 2004JA010866, 2005 [ADS]
    36. K. Scherer, H. Fichtner, T. Borrmann, J. Beer, L. Desorgher, E. Flükiger, H.-J. Fahr, S. E. S. Ferreira, U. W. Langner, M. S. Potgieter, B. Heber, J. Masarik, N. J. Shaviv, J. Veizer, “Interstellar-Terrestrial Relations: Variable Cosmic Environments, The Dynamic Heliosphere, and Their Imprints on Terrestrial Archives and Climate”, Sp. Sci. Rev., 127, 327–465, 2006.
    37. S. Naoz & N. J. Shaviv,
      “ Open Cluster Birth Analysis and Multiple Spiral Arm Sets in the Milky Way”,
      New Astron., 12, 410, 2007. [ads] [pdf]
    38. A.-J. van Marle, S. P. Owocki, & N. J. Shaviv,
      “Numerical Simulations of Continuum Driven Winds of Super-Eddington Stars”,
      Mon. Not. of the Roy. Ast. Soc., 389, 1353-1359, 2008. [pdf]
    39. N. J. Shaviv,
      “Using the Oceans as a Calorimeter to quantify the solar radiative forcing”,
      J. Geophys. Res.–Space Phys., 113 (A11), A11101, doi:10.1029 / 2007JA012989, 2008. [pdf]
    40. A.-J. van Marle, S. P. Owocki, & N. J. Shaviv,
      “On the behavior of stellar winds that exceed the photon-tiring limit”,
      Mon. Not. of the Roy. Ast. Soc., 394, 595-604, 2009. [pdf]
    41. N. J. Shaviv, T. Piran & E. Nakar,
      “Inhomogeneity in the Supernova Remnant Distribution as the Origin of the PAMELA Anomaly”,
      Phys. Rev. Lett., 108, issue 11, id. 111302, doi:10.1103 / PhysRevLett.103.111302, 2009 [pdf]
    42. C. Dotan, E. M. Rossi & N. J. Shaviv,
      “A Lower Limit on the Halo Mass to form Supermassive Black Holes”,
      Mon. Not. of the Roy. Ast. Soc., 417, 3035, 2011 [pdf]
    43. N. J. Shaviv, R. Wehrse, & G. Shaviv,
      “The maximal runaway temperature of Earth-like planets”,
      Icarus, 216, 403, 2011 [pdf]
    44. C. Dotan, & N. J. Shaviv,
      “Super-Eddington slim accretion discs with winds”,
      Mon. Not. of the Roy. Ast. Soc., 413, 1623. [pdf]
    45. S. Ziskin, N. J. Shaviv,
      “Quantifying the Role of Solar Radiative Forcing over the 20th Century”,
      Advances in Space Research, 50, 762, 2011 [pdf]
    46. C. Dotan, & N. J. Shaviv,
      “The Super-Eddington Nature of Super-Massive Stars”,
      to appear in MNRAS [arXiv]
    47. T. Shacham, & N. J. Shaviv,
      “On Continuum-driven Winds from Rotating Stars”,
      Astrophys. J., 757, 191, 2012 [pdf]
    48. E. O. Ofek, M. Sullivan, S. B. Cenko, M. M. Kasliwal, A. Gal-Yam, S. R. Kulkarni, I. Arcavi, L.
      Bildsten, J. Bloom, A. Howell, A. Filippenko, R. Laher, D. Levitan, E. Nakar, P. E. Nugent, B.
      Sesar, J. Silverman, N. J. Shaviv4, J. Surace, O. Yaron, "An outburst from a SN progenitor one
      month prior to explosion", Nature, 494, 65-67, 2013 [arXiv] [ads]
    49. Ofer M. Springer & Nir J. Shaviv
      "Asteroseismic effects in close binary stars"
      MNRAS 434, 1869, 2013 [pdf] [ads]
    50. Irit Idan, Nir J. Shaviv, Giora Shaviv
      "The Fate of a WD Accreting H-Rich Material at High Rates"
      MNRAS 433, 2884, 2013 [arXiv] [pdf] [ads]
    51. Simone Dall’Osso, Tsvi Piran, Nir J. Shaviv,
      “Binary Pulsar J0737-3039 – Evidence for a new core collapse and neutron star formation mechanism”
      MNRAS 438, 1005, 2014 [arXiv] [ads]
    52. David Benyamin, Ehud Nakar, Tsvi Piran, Nir J. Shaviv,
      “Recovering the observed B/C ratio in a dynamic spiral-armed cosmic ray model",
      Astrophys. J. 782, 34 [arXiv] [ads]
    53. E. O. Ofek, M. Sullivan, N. J. Shaviv, A. Steinbok, I. Arcavi, A. Gal-Yam, D. Tal, S. R. Kulkarni, P. E. Nugent, S. Ben-Ami, M. M. Kasliwal, S. Cenko, S. Bradley; R. Laher, J. Surace, J. S. Bloom, A. V. Filippenko, J. M. Silverman, O. Yaron,
      "Precursors Prior to Type IIn Supernova Explosions are Common: Precursor Rates, Properties, and Correlations"
      Astrophysical Journal, 789, 104, 2014 [ads]
    54. Nir J Shaviv, Andreas Prokoph, Ján Veizer,
      "Is the Solar System's Galactic Motion Imprinted in the Phanerozoic Climate?"
      Scientific Reports 4, article 6150, 2014 ( doi:10.1038/srep06150) [nature]
    55. D. Howard, H. Svensmark, N. J. Shaviv,
      "The Solar and Southern Oscillation Components in the Satellite Altimetry Data"
      J. Geophys. Res., DOI: 10.1002/2014JA020732 [ads]
    56. Ben Margalit, Nir J. Shaviv,
      "Constraining MOND Using the Vertical Motion of Stars in the Solar Neighborhood",
      Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society 456 (2), 1163-1171 [ads]
    57. N. L. Strotjohann, E. O. Ofek, A. Gal-Yam, M. Sullivan, S. R. Kulkarni, N. J. Shaviv, C. Fremling, M. M. Kasliwal, P. E. Nugent, Y. Cao, I. Arcavi, J. Sollerman, A. V. Filippenko, R. Laher, J. Surace,
      "Absence of Precursor Eruptions Prior to Type IIb Supernovae",
      The Astrophysical Journal 811 (2), 117 [ads]
    58. N. Smith, N. J. Shaviv, H. Svensmark,
      "Approximate analytical solutions to the condensation/coagulation equation of aerosols",
      Aerosol Science & Technology, 2015 [ads]
    59. E. O. Ofek, S. B. Cenko, N. J. Shaviv, G. Duggan, N.-L. Strotjohann, A. Rubin, S. R. Kulkarni, A. Gal-Yam, M. Sullivan, Y. Cao, P. E. Nugent, M. M. Kasliwa, J. Sollerman, C. Fransson, A. V. Filippenko, D. A. Perley, O. Yaron, and R. Laher
      PTF13efv - An outburst 500 days prior to the SNhunt 275 Explosion and its radiative efficiency, The Astrophys. J. 824, 6, 2016
      [ads]
    60. David Benyamin, Ehud Nakar, Tsvi Piran, Nir J. Shaviv,
      "The B/C and sub-Iron/Iron Cosmic ray ratios - further evidence in favor of the spiral arm diffusion model",
      [arXiv]
    61. Nir J. Shaviv,
      "A Kinematic Spiral Arm Shock Signature: 'Ringing' in the Vertical Motion of the Stars", submitted to MNRAS
      [arXiv]
    62. Nir J. Shaviv,
      "The Paleoclimatic evidence for Strongly Interacting Dark Matter Present in the Galactic Disk", submitted to PRL
      [arXiv]
    63. Stanley P. Owocki, Nir J. Shaviv,
      "The Spectral Temperature of Optically Thick Outflows with Application to Light Echo Spectra from η Carinae's Giant Eruption", MNRAS, 462, 345, 2016
      [ads]
    64. Lara Nava, David Benyamin, Tsvi Piran, Nir J. Shaviv,
      "Spectral map of the diffuse γ-ray emission from π0-decay in a dynamic spiral arm model: comparison with observations",
      Mon. Not. Roy. Astron. Soc. [MNRAS]
    65. Jacob Svensmark, Martin B. Enghoff, Nir J. Shaviv, and Henrik Svensmark,
      "The response of clouds and aerosols to cosmic ray decreases",
      to appear in J. Geophys. Res.–Space. [JGR-Space]

    1. S. P. Owocki, & N. J. Shaviv, “Instabilty & Evolution Near the Eddington Limit”, in “Eta Carinae and the Supernova Impostors”, edited by K. Davidson & R. Humphreys, to be published by Springer (invited review chapter) [ads] [pdf]
    2. N. J. Shaviv, Die Rolle der Sonne im Klimawandel des 20 Jahrhunderts, in “Die kalte Sonne”, edited by F. Vahrenholt & S. Lüning. Hoffmann und Campe Verlag, 2012. [translation]
    3. G. Shaviv, S. Bressler, S., N. J. Shaviv, “The habitable zone and the generalized greenhouse effect” in “Habitability of other planets and satellites”, eds. de Vera & Seckbach, Springer, 2012
    Conference Proceedings
    1. O. Regev & N. J. Shaviv, "Pattern Formation and Evolution in Astrophysical Fluids". Acta Physica Polonica, 1994, 25, 1005. (Presented at "The Sixth Symposium on Statistical Physics" Zakopane, Poland, Sept. 1993.
    2. N. J. Shaviv, "Inquisitive Correlations in the BATSE gamma-Ray Burst Data", in "The gamma-ray sky with COMTON GRO and SIGMA", eds. M. Signore et al., (Kluwer: Dordrecht), p. 395., 1995.
    3. N. J. Shaviv, "A GRB Model Satisfying Stringent Observational Constraints" in the proceedings of the ESA conference: "Towards the Source of Gamma Ray Bursts", Noordwijk, 1995: Astrophys. & Space Science, 231 (1-2) p. 445, 1995.
    4. N. J. Shaviv & Shaviv G., "The galaxy mass distribution from mergers in a collapsing spherical cluster", IAU SYMP (171) 444, 1996.
    5. N. J. Shaviv & Dar A, "Solution To The Gamma Ray Burst Mystery?", at the proceedings of VIIIth Rencontre De Blois, "Neutrinos and Dark Matter In The Universe'', June 6-12, 1996
    6. N.J. Shaviv & G. Shaviv, "Screening of Nuclear Reactions in Stars", in the proceedings of "White Dwarfs", ed. J. Isern, M.Hernanz & E.Garcia-Berro (Kluwer), 1996.
    7. Dar A., Laor A., & Shaviv N. J., "Life Extinctions By Cosmic Ray Bursts", in the Proceedings of the XXII Rencontre de Moriond, Les Arcs, France, 1997, and in "Results and Perspectives in ParticlePhysics" Proceedings of the 1997 Rencontre de la Valee d'Aosta, Italy, 1997.
    8. N.J. Shaviv & G. Shaviv, "How to calculate the Screening of Nuclear Reactions in Stars", Proc. "Strongly coupled Plasmas", ed. G.Kalman & M., Boston, 1997
    9. Shaviv N. J., "The Instability of Radiative Flows: From the Early Universe to the Eddington Luminosity Limit", Physics Reports 311, 177-185, 1999. (Proceedings of "Astrophysical fluids from atomic nuclei to stars and galaxies", Haifa, Israel, Jan 1998.
    10. Shaviv G. & Shaviv N. J., "Is there a dynamic effect in the screening of nuclear reactions in stellar plasmas?" Physics Reports 311, 99-114, 1999. (Proceedings of "Astrophysical fluids from atomic nuclei to stars and galaxies", Haifa, Israel, Jan 1998.
    11. Shaviv N. J., "Extremely Luminous Atmospheres", in the proceedings of "IAU Coll. 169: Variable and non-spherical stellar winds in luminous hot stars", Heidelberg, Germany, June 1998.
    12. Shaviv N. J. "Striking nonlinear mode coupling in the CMBR", in the proc. of "The 19th Texas Symp. on Relativistic Astrophysics", Paris, France, December 1998. [pdf]
    13. Heyl J. S., Shaviv N. J., Lithwick Y., "The Optics of Neutron-Star Magnetospheres", in the proceedings of the AAS HEAD Division Meeting 1999, Charleston, South Carolina, April 1999
    14. Shaviv G., Shaviv N. J. "The controversy over the electrostatic screening of nuclear reactions in stellar plasmas" (invited), in the proceedings of "Frontier Objects in Astrophysics and Particle Physics", Vulcano, Italy, June 2000.
    15. Shaviv G., Shaviv N. J. "Deriving the Electrostatic Screening of Nuclear Reactions from first Principles", in the proceedings of "Nuclei in the Cosmos", 2000, Arhus, Denmark, July 2000.
    16. Shaviv N. J. "The Winds of Super Eddington Atmospheres", in the proceedings the International Workshop on "Winds from Massive Stars", Îles de la Madeleine, Québec, Canada, July 2000 [pdf]
    17. Shaviv, N. J., Shaviv G., "Electrostatic Screening of Nuclear Reactions" (invited), In the proceedings of "Hot Points in Astrophysics", JINR, Dubna, Russia, August 2000.
    18. Shaviv, N. J., “Super-Eddington Atmospheres and their Winds” in Gansicke, B., Beuermann, K., Reinsch, K., eds., “The physics of cataclysmic variables and related objects”, Proceedings of conference, Goettingen, ASP Conference Series, 2001 [ADS, pdf]
    19. Heyl, J. S., Shaviv, N. J., “What Could Polarimetry tell us about Neutron Stars?” in “Two years of Science with Chandra”, Symposium held in Washington DC, September 2001 [ADS]
    20. Shaviv, N. J., “Classical Novae as Super Eddington Objects” in Hernanz, M., José, J., eds., “Classical Nova Explosions: International Conference on Classical Nova Explosions”, Proceedings of conference in Sitges, Spain, AIP 2002 [pdf]
    21. Shaviv, N. J., “Cosmic Rays Diffusion in the dynamic Milky Way: Model, Measurement and Terrestrial Effects” in the “International School of Cosmic Ray Astrophysics”, Erice, Italy, June 2002. (invited) [pdf]
    22. N. J. Shaviv, “Climate Change and the Cosmic Ray Connection”, in “International Seminar on Nuclear War and Planetary Emergencies – 30thsession”, Erice, Italy, August 2003. (Ed. R. Ragaini, World Scientific, 2004) (invited)
    23. N. J. Shaviv & G. Shaviv, “The state of Be7 in the solar core”, Leiden workshop on nuclear reactions, June 2004. (invited)
    24. N. J. Shaviv, “Exceeding the Eddington Limit”, in proceedings of “The fate of the most massive stars”, Grand Teton Natl. Park, May 2004. (invited) [ADS, pdf]
    25. N. J. Shaviv, “The Cosmic Ray / Climate Connection”, to appear in Int. J. Mod. Phys.-A., in proceedings of “The 19th European Symposium on Cosmic Rays”, Florence, September 2004. (invited)
    26. S. Naoz & N. J. Shaviv, “The dynamics of the Sagitarius-Carina spiral arm” in the “International School of Cosmic Ray Astrophysics”, Erice, Italy, June 2004.
    27. N. J. Shaviv, “On the Link Between Cosmic Rays and Terrestrial Climate”, Int. J. Mod. Phys.-A., 20, 666, 2005. [ads]
    28. N. J. Shaviv, & G. Shaviv, "The state of beryllium in the Sun and the possibility of sterile neutrinos", in “Frontier Objects in Astrophysics and Particle Physics, Vulcano Workshop 2006”, Eds. F. Giovannelli & G. Mannocchi., p. 531 [ads]
    29. N. J. Shaviv, “Long-term cosmic ray exposure of Earth”, in the proceedings of “Heliophysics: The Sun, The Heliosphere and the Earth”, Bad Honnef, Germany, May 2007.
    30. A. J. van Marle, S. P. Owocki, N. J. Shaviv, “Continuum-Driven Winds from Super-Eddington Stars: A Tale of Two Limits”, in “FIRST STARS III Conference”, AIP Conference Proceedings, 990, 250-253 (2008). [ads]
    31. T. Piran, N. J. Shaviv & E. Nakar, “Inhomogeneity in the Supernova Remnant Distribution as a natural explanation of the PAMEALA/ATIC Observations”, In proceedings of Recontres de Moriond 2009 Very High Energy Phenomena in the Universe, Les Arcs, France, 2009. [pdf]
    32. N. J. Shaviv, & C. Dotan, “On the Appearance of Super-Eddington States in Various Astrophysical Systems”, in Memorie della Società Astronomica Italiana, Vol. 81, p. 350, 2010 [pdf]
    33. G. Shaviv, N. J. Shaviv, & R. Wehrse, “CO2 cools or heats?", in Memorie della Società Astronomica Italiana, Vol. 81, p. 494, 2010 [pdf]
    34. N. J. Shaviv, “The Climatic role of the Sun—How, how much, and what does it mean?”, in “2010 World Federation of Scientists International Seminar on Nuclear War and Planetary Emergencies ” (World Scientific, 2011) [pdf]
    35. N. J. Shaviv, “The Role of the Solar Forcing in the 20th century climate change”, to appear in “2011 World Federation of Scientists International Seminar on Nuclear War and Planetary Emergencies ” (World Scientific, 2012) [pdf]
    36. N. J. Shaviv, C. Dotan, “Classical Novae as Super-Eddington Steady States”, to appear in the proceedings of the “Palermo Workshop 2011: The Golden Age of Cataclysmic Variables and Related Objects”, ed. F. Giovannelli. [pdf]
    37. S. Bressler, N. J. Shaviv, G. Shaviv, “The Sensitivity of the Greenhouse Effect to Changes in the Concentration of Gases in Planetary Atmospheres”, ed. F. Giovannelli. [pdf]
    38. I. Idan, N. J. Shaviv, and G. Shaviv, “The Fate of a WD Accreting H-Rich Mate- rial at High Rates”, in proceedings of “Nuclear Physics in Astrophysics V”, Journal of Physics: Conference Series, 337, 012051 [ads]
    Ref: http://www.phys.huji.ac.il/~shaviv/cv/cv.html
     
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  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    Here are Shaviv's numbers for you. What you are persistently referring to is solar luminosity that has been thoroughly investigated and its effect on temp change is weak which is referred to in the literature as solar radiative forcing. If you read below you will see that according to Shaviv one has to include cosmic ray flux (CRF) in the overall picture. When that is done, according to Shaviv, the result is quite different! . See Below


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    [1] We examine the results linking cosmic ray flux (CRF) variations to global climate change. We then proceed to study various periods over which there are estimates for the radiative forcing, temperature change and CRF variations relative to today. These include the Phanerozoic as a whole, the Cretaceous, the Eocene, the Last Glacial Maximum, the 20th century, as well as the 11-yr solar cycle. This enables us to place quantitative limits on climate sensitivity to both changes in the CRF, and the radiative budget, F, under equilibrium. Under the assumption that the CRF is indeed a climate driver, the sensitivity to variations in the globally averaged relative change in the tropospheric ionization ℐ is consistently fitted with μ ≡ − (dTglobal/dℐ) ≈ 7.5 ± 2°K. Additionally, the sensitivity to radiative forcing changes is λ ≡ dTglobal/dF = 0.35 ± 0.09°KW−1m2, at the current temperature, while its temperature derivative is undetectable with (dλ/dT)0 = −0.01 ± 0.04 m2W−1. If the observed CRF/climate link is ignored, the best sensitivity obtained is λ = 0.54 ± 0.12°KW−1m2 and (dλ/dT)0 = −0.02 ± 0.05 m2W−1. Note that this analysis assumes that different climate conditions can be described with at most a linear function of T; however, the exact sensitivity probably depends on various additional factors. Moreover, λ was mostly obtained through comparison of climate states notably different from each other, and thus only describes an average sensitivity. Subject to the above caveats and those described in the text, the CRF/climate link therefore implies that the increased solar luminosity and reduced CRF over the previous century should have contributed a warming of 0.47 ± 0.19°K, while the rest should be mainly attributed to anthropogenic causes. Without any effect of cosmic rays, the increase in solar luminosity would correspond to an increased temperature of 0.16 ± 0.04°K.

    Even if shaviv is correct it could easily take twenty years or more for his work to be fully vetted criticized and accepted or rejected. Under the current political climate it could take twice that long!.
    This guy is no quack, however, and neither is Salby, and you'd be well advised to sit up and take notice.

    Please note the links in red are active. You can read an earlier criticisms (2004) of Shaviv's earlier publication. And by clicking on "Check for Updates" you can read shaviv's response to the earlier criticisms 2005, the above abstract) . Pay careful attention to dates. To make sure you are reading the most recent work.
     
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    #264     Nov 20, 2017
  5. stu

    stu

    The comparison is reasonable. Both AGW and Gravity are obviously supported by scientific evidence even though you might believe one of them isn't.

    Predicting to what extent AGW will damage the planet is not settled, just as it is not settled exactly how much gravity is certain to damage a falling object .

    It's all rather obvious and nothing but politics or absurdity to pretend otherwise.
     
    #265     Nov 20, 2017
  6. stu

    stu

    Stop being disingenuous. My patience is no more infinite than yours.

    Salby has not published for peer review in all the years he could have.

    As far as Shaviv is concerned, if you are a scientist then you will at least understand that it is the SCIENCE not the SCIENTIST that matters.
    What the hell are you trying to prove by listing Shaviv's achievements while ignoring the point!
    What he proposes is not supported by peer reviewed science itself. Peer review that has equal or more eminent science and scientists to apply to the issue. How many more times!?

    I have every respect for Shaviv's work and there is no doubt he is brilliant, which makes it all the more perplexing as to why he would do this kind of thing.

    The subject is not really directly in his field, but what he suggested is not supported by basic scientific fact which he has been made aware of. Even more weird is why he tried to dodge the problem when it was brought to his attention and gave no scientific valid response that beholds a scientist of his stature.

    It is also perplexing as to why you have been suckered into the you tube global warming denial jerking circle .
     
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  7. stu

    stu

    I have not referred to solar luminosity. I said all solar activity and as for Cosmic Flux, there is nothing new! It goes back to Henrik Svensmark in 2003 and is mired in controversy.

    Shaviv's work from 2005 was left wanting to put it politely by other direct research and in 2012, when high quality satellite data showed cosmic rays erm excuse me, "cosmic ray flux (CRF)" , had no statistically significant influence. This also confirms Lockwood and Fröhlich findings in 2007 and others which negated solar activity and cosmic rays as mentioned earlier. They do not meet with the evidence.
    Also journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/JCLI-D-11-00306.1 finds galactic cosmic rays do not have any statistically significant influence on changes in cloud cover which is opposite to what Shaviv ( and earlier proposers of this effect) need.
     
    #267     Nov 20, 2017
  8. Tom B

    Tom B

    If memory serves me correctly, the flat earthers also refused to provide one peer-reviewed scientific study.
     
    #268     Nov 20, 2017
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  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    What exactly is your point? I thought it was that observed temperature change can not be explained by direct solar radiative forcing. I don't disagree with this, and neither does Shaviv!. You have failed utterly to even try and understand Shaviv's contribution to the science. It is not cosmic rays directly, it is ionization related to Cosmic Ray Flux that is linked to cloud formation according to Shaviv. In fact new laboratory results are supportive of his hypothesis. (Cosmic rays are the same thing as gamma radiation) . You may not realize that when solar radiative flux is measured it is generally not the entire spectrum that is measured but typically uv through infrared. This is the radiation that is directly observable as heat or is convertible to heat (IR) upon absorption. And of course gamma has also been measured, but there is no observable direct link. Everyone was looking for a direct link between changes in solar radiation and temperature. But observable direct links are too weak to explain observation. Shaviv has proposed that there is an indirect mechanism that up until ~2005 had been entirely overlooked. There is a link between cloud formation solar driven ionization. What he is proposing is quite different than what has been well considered previously.
     
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  10. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    There is no reason to debate this because it's all based on the huge assumption that Cons are literate. They will literally post fake papers calling it peer reviewed and then pretend huge evidence exists for their bullshit.
     
    #270     Nov 20, 2017