Global Macro Trading Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Daal, Feb 25, 2011.

  1. Daal

    Daal

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    Gundlach avoiding duration like a plague in his flexible fund
     
    #6291     Nov 15, 2016
  2. m22au

    m22au

    thank you for your reply
     
    #6292     Nov 16, 2016
  3. Ironically, duration has been a great winner since the election...
     
    #6293     Nov 17, 2016
  4. Daal

    Daal

    what do you mean?
     
    #6294     Nov 17, 2016
  5. Curves have bear flattened since last week. The higher duration, longer-dated treasuries have outperformed the lower duration, shorter-dated treasuries in the selloff.
     
    #6295     Nov 17, 2016
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Wasn't the curve upward sloping? so a flattening would mean the back came in more? I don't really know fixed income
     
    #6296     Nov 17, 2016
  7. Daal

    Daal

    Hasnt the long dated paper % drops been much bigger?
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    sure, in terms of bps it might have been different but in terms of % declines it has been pretty bad, thats the very definition of duration, no?
     
    #6297     Nov 18, 2016
  8. The curve has been upward sloping, but relatively flat, by historical standards. Falttening in yield terms, in this case of a selloff, meant that the back end yields went up by less than the short end yields. To be fair, not by a lot, but the fact that this has happened after what we have learned is rather amazing.
     
    #6298     Nov 18, 2016
  9. No, percentages don't tell you the whole story, since you're not taking the duration ratio into account. That's the whole point of using basis points applied to yields, since this assumes that your positions are appropriately weighted.

    So in this particular case, let's take 5s and 30s, for instance (using the current 5y OTR and the o30s, Aug46s). 5s lost arnd 2.32% in price terms, while 30s lost 9.6%, which means that 30s lost 4.1379 times what the 5s lost. However, the 30s are about 4.3124 times the duration of the 5s.
     
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    #6299     Nov 18, 2016
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  10. Daal

    Daal

    clients that are losing money wont find any comfort in this sort of stuff
     
    #6300     Nov 18, 2016