Global Macro Trading Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Daal, Feb 25, 2011.

  1. m22au

    m22au

    It does look like someone jumped on board the AAMRQ train at 1.50pm - with the stock going from $11.05 to $11.95 in less than 30 minutes.

    edited to add:
    As you may have noticed above, the second article from hiepsfinance.com has AAMRQ at 40 cents lower than the formula you used in your earlier post.
     
    #5081     Nov 13, 2013
  2. Daal

    Daal

    at 1.45 there was some big block trades, some idiots were selling the stock aggressively and got taken, once they were out the stock went rational again.

    I understand that guy has a different formula but he is not paid to research full-time so I think JPM is likely to be more accurate. In any case, AAMRQ has traded at a premium to the formula in several instances (especially before the DOJ came out and people thought it was a safe play), it is not crazy to think it can do it again because OTC stocks can do dumb things.
    Just to stay in the safe side I will be selling most of my stock today and holding a smaller position untill it pops to high $12s or $13
     
    #5082     Nov 13, 2013
  3. Daal

    Daal

    A correction, the hedge ratio is supposed to be $1 AAMRQ long and $1.6 (or more) for LCC, not the amount of shares. They are priced differently obviously
     
    #5083     Nov 13, 2013
  4. dhpar

    dhpar

    the JPM formula is wrong. it does not include some important aspects of the deal. read the disclosure better...
     
    #5084     Nov 13, 2013
  5. m22au

    m22au

    The formula as provided by JPM:
    AAMRQ price = 1.582*LCC price – 22.56

    suggests that AAMRQ is worth 0 if LCC falls to $14.26 or below.

    and then participates $1.582 for each $1 that LCC rises above $14.26.

    I've read the structure of the deal - can you specify why the formula is wrong?
     
    #5085     Nov 13, 2013
  6. Daal

    Daal

    I thought AAMRQ would gap up and run but now as much as this, it seems that Cramer pumped the stock pre-market. I sold most at 12.40s (too early) and kept part of the position with a short in LCC (2 shares of AAMRQ for every 1.65 shares short of LCC)
     
    #5086     Nov 13, 2013
  7. dhpar

    dhpar

    for instance the dilution from convertibles is not included, employee compensation, etc...
    the hedge ratio is more like 1/1.4. (AAMRQ/LCC)

    botom line is that it is as good arb as you get - i traded various strategies around AMR for over 2 years now - it is a cash cow.
     
    #5087     Nov 13, 2013
  8. Daal

    Daal

    Yes, this stock will be missed. One of my top stocks this year. FNMA too
     
    #5088     Nov 13, 2013
  9. m22au

    m22au

    Why are you shorting $1.60 LCC for each $1 AAMRQ ?

    Even if you assume that you short more LCC than AAMRQ due to AAMRQ being at a discount, I would have thought that you would buy approximately 1.582 AAMRQ share for each 1 LCC share, or about $1 of AAMRQ for each $1.21 of LCC.

    Why are you going as low as 1.21 shares of AAMRQ for each 1 LCC share?
     
    #5089     Nov 13, 2013
  10. Daal

    Daal

    Actually i think you are right. I confused myself because of the beta calculations, I wanted more LCC short because AAMRQ beta is so high (slope to LCC stock)

    The right ratio would be 1.6 shares of AAMRQ for every share of LCC with a $ ratio $1 AAMRQ - $1.21 LCC

    but if dpar is right then you got to short a little bit more of LCC
     
    #5090     Nov 13, 2013