where could get the iron core spot price chart? Tried to use bloomberg, but it's not available for free users.
I hear conflicting stories - on one hand, seems like people want to pick up some cheap protection. On the other hand, I hear of some large(r) guys getting squeezed out of short-risk trades. PS. My P/A trade has been (since early this year) to be short Spooz Dec 1500 calls... Every structured desk out there is long gamma from 1450 to 1600 because of massive amounts of up and out calls (I reckon there is about 20-30 yards around the street), as you can see any time we get to 1400ish, vol dies.
Here: Long term charts (for some price series) can be found here: http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/?commodity=iron-ore&months=360 These blogs cover the various commodity stories quite well: http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2012/08/iron-ore-price-falls-threaten-an-income-recession/ http://www.alsosprachanalyst.com/markets/steel-and-iron-ore-prices-in-china-make-new-low.html
Thank you Martinghoul, Is there real time or semi-real time chart? hehe, I demand here too much. p.s for the aussie bear, I suggest wait until ECB 6th Sep's meeting.
Real time is a bit difficult and I doubt such data exists, tbh. The source of for all of this is Platts (as part of the their Steel Business Briefing service here: http://www.steelbb.com/), so if anyone has it, it will be them.
No it can't turn into a costly waiting game, because you control how much you pay while you wait. If you limit the risk to what you can comfortably wait/burn, then there is no issue. And since all bubbles in history have eventually popped spectacularly, you will get paid. Example, let's say you were early on the housing bubble and started paying 1% per annum (when Treasuries were paying 4-5% per annum) to own CDS exposure from 2003. So, your fund performance is 1% per annum worse in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006. Then you make 100% in 2007-2008. So, with no timing ability whatsoever, and being 4-5 years too early, and not adding to your positions at all in 2007-2008 when it became obvious the timing was right, you had a 100% gain at a risk of 4-5%. Everyone who says you need timing to profit from bubbles is utterly wrong. The only way you can lose shorting a bubble is if you risk more than your staying power/conviction and capitulate before it pops, or if you are wrong that it's a bubble. You cannot lose by maintaining modest asymmetric positions each year until the crash occurs, even if your timing is horrible. Finally, the timing issue is not hard anyway. You can either wait until the fundamentals start turning down, or wait until the key price drops below the 200 day moving average, or both, and only then put on your bets. This takes about 1 minute of analysis per month.
I agree with this. The reason most people got killed shorting Japanese bonds was because their thesis was flat out wrong, inflation there is frequently negative or barely positive. Economic growth weak, the fiscal situation has worsened but a lot of those people were shorting in the 90's and early 2000's when fiscally they weren't as bad, they deserved to lose money because they misunderstood the situation not because the trade mechanics was flawed
The trade was a call on BOJ effectiveness, the shorts were wrong, whether the trade had positive or negative carry is not really relevant, it had negative expectation due a misunderstanding