Global Macro Trading Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Daal, Feb 25, 2011.

  1. Specterx

    Specterx

    It's not really relevant, but I think gold's 'liquidation' in 2008 is something almost everybody reads wrong. Gold actually rallied about 57% between when equities topped in '07 to March 2008 - only seven months. That's an incredible rally and IMO the subsequent decline had much more to do with this than with any correlation between gold and stocks/risk assets. During the overall period (10/07-3/09) when SPX lost 58%, gold gained 37%.
     
    #2731     Jan 13, 2012
  2. I am sorry for your loss.
     
    #2732     Jan 13, 2012
  3. I get you, but spx and gold were strongly correlated in the latter half of 2007, and gold has held well in this equity rally.
     
    #2733     Jan 13, 2012
  4. jj90

    jj90

    Do I read that you are expecting a repeat of late 07, 1st half of 08'?
     
    #2734     Jan 13, 2012
  5. No, not at all. I am stating that gold and index have had a +corr.
     
    #2735     Jan 13, 2012
  6. Yeah, I believe that's the case, if EMU dissolution actually takes place. Obviously, there are all sorts of risks arnd this, such as the possibility that Germany switches to NewDEM, but leaves its existing bonds in EUR. However, I believe the chances of that are extremely low. So, essentially, if there is a NewDEM, German bills offer you the only possible way to get your hands on NewDEM sovereign cashflows. They're expensive for exactly that reason. Obviously, if you're happy to take the risk, you can probably get NewDEM by investing in German property (I hear Berlin is cheap) or utilities, but that's not the same thing as the govt.

    As to gold, I am not an expert at all and I don't really have a particular view on what's likely to happen to it. I own some, but I don't care where it trades, 'cause I own it purely for diversification. What I am saying is that if gold trades at a price where I am happy to sell it, the world (and myself) is likely to be facing much bigger issues. I imagine it's similar for any CB, inlcuding the SNB (with the notable exception of Gordon Brown).
     
    #2736     Jan 14, 2012
  7. dhpar

    dhpar

    :confused:
     
    #2737     Jan 14, 2012
  8. OK, why not. I was only referring to the initial FX trans.
     
    #2738     Jan 14, 2012
  9. Daal

    Daal

    Looks like people expect Greece to miss its March payment and default
     
    #2739     Jan 17, 2012
  10. Yes, hence the massive worldwide rally in risk assets. Old, old news.
     
    #2740     Jan 17, 2012