Global Macro Trading Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Daal, Feb 25, 2011.

  1. Tilson to be on CNBC at noon. Will be comparing NFLX to BP. Okey-dokey on that one.
     
    #1871     Oct 26, 2011
  2. How you gonna do that? Let's say I wanna buy Greek stocks here and want to hedge the FX risk. What should I do?
     
    #1872     Oct 26, 2011
  3. Daal

    Daal

    Short EUR/USD by the same amount you are long Greek stocks
     
    #1873     Oct 26, 2011
  4. So what happens when/if Greece exits the EMU and re-denominates into the New Drachmae, while the rest of the EMU stays with the EUR? EURUSD is likely to shoot up, which means that you get absolutely hosed on both the stocks and the FX hedge, innit?
     
    #1874     Oct 26, 2011
  5. Daal

    Daal

    I was assuming they would stay in EUR. If they get out you are right, in that case you want buy after they get out.
    But I dunno, if stocks are claims in real assets and can protect against hyperinflation why wouldn't they be a good protection against a move out of the EUR?Its hard to it would be worse than Zimbabwe and Germany in the 20s. As far as I know stocks retained their value in those periods
     
    #1875     Oct 26, 2011
  6. Well, they might have retained their usefulness as an asset if your liabilities were in the same ccy. If you're a foreign investor, on the other hand, owning stocks in local ccy will probably make you feel like a Hungarian with a CHF mtge in 2011.
     
    #1876     Oct 26, 2011
  7. Just a little fun fact about Dexia...

    In 2008 they got saved also by one of their biggest stockholders, a state entity...

    The entity borrowed from Dexia.... To buy Dexia Stock.... With their previous Dexia stock as collateral...:p

    This was forbidden in most of Europe (forbidden everywhere now) but at the time Belgian lawed presumably allowed it...

    One must admit the creativity of the financial wizards keeps on suprising...


    The entity BTW is totally bankrupt but will not go through bankruptcy in the actual sense, it will just get wind down, cause bankruptcy would open the possibility of litigation against the board...:)
     
    #1877     Oct 26, 2011
  8. Daal

    Daal

    Are you sure?If stocks keep their value in real terms you would only lose money if the FX depreciation would be higher than inflation, the real exchange rate fell. This could happen of course but what could also happen is stocks have a significant real gain as I believe was in the case of Argentina
     
    #1878     Oct 26, 2011
  9. Daal

    Daal

    According to this there is a 78% chance that Greece leaves the EUR
    http://marginalrevolution.com/margi...ot-the-same-as-the-intrade-odds.html#comments

    Since the chance seems to high, its better to wait for that in order to buy Greek stocks. I see that the Argentine peso dropped about 75% over the space of a few months after the default and de-pegging. You would have made the money back by holding the Argentina stock market but you would have made a killing by buying after the collapse
    This seems to be a better plan in this case
     
    #1879     Oct 27, 2011
  10. Daal

    Daal

    Hey Martin,
    If sov CDS are a scam product, why not short Greece CDS and collect that income for free?
     
    #1880     Oct 27, 2011