Global Macro Trading Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by Daal, Feb 25, 2011.

  1. To be a trader you need timing ability. You can't expect to profit from price movements if you have no ability to forecast when they will occur.
     
    #141     Mar 21, 2011
  2. Butterball

    Butterball

    Apparently it was so absurd you didn't bother to read it properly. How did the trade pan out over a 10 year time period? It was a money pit. Analysis was correct, trade turned out to be a terrible loser.
     
    #142     Mar 21, 2011
  3. Butterball

    Butterball

    Exactly. And timing has absolutely nothing to do with a correct or incorrect macro analysis on the Japanese debt situation. You could be correct in an economic sense and the market still proves you wrong. That was the point I was making.
     
    #143     Mar 21, 2011
  4. Daal

    Daal

    But the cost of betting some of these fat tails can be very small. Someone long CDSs could have risked 3-4% of his networth with the potential upside of multiples of that over that 10 year if the analysis was correct
     
    #144     Mar 21, 2011
  5. #145     Mar 21, 2011
  6. You can't buy these tails cheaply. Maybe whoever got into this trade initially a long time ago could have done it at such a low cost that they could sit on the trade indefinitely. At the moment, the mkts price all these tails in such a way that you can't afford to sit on them for years. Why otherwise would 5y JGB yields be at arnd 50bps?
     
    #146     Mar 21, 2011
  7. Daal

    Daal

    Wasn't the CDS being quoted at 50-60bps a few months back, you dont think thats cheap?
     
    #147     Mar 21, 2011
  8. Sov CDS is a scam product... If you think you're guaranteed to get paid, you'd better think again and have an army of lawyers at your beck and call. I could go into gory details, if you like, since I spent some time looking at these things last year. More importantly, even if you were willing to take your chances with sov CDS, doesn't a willing BoJ make a credit event extremely unlikely?
     
    #148     Mar 21, 2011
  9. Daal

    Daal

    Actually you are correct there(Btw, was there any CDS on Argentina when they defaulted?). Your Yen trade might be a better idea(Though perhaps OTM puts on JGB could be avaliable)
     
    #149     Mar 21, 2011
  10. CH1973

    CH1973

    If you dont like CDS (by the way I disagree with you, this is not a scam product, but is definitly not accessible to regular P.As) why don't you buy a long term low delta put option from any bank in Japan. I am sure that any sovereign event in a developed country will have huge consequences in banks shares.
     
    #150     Mar 21, 2011