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  1. Medical Malpractice Deaths over 500 Times Higher than Accidental Gun Deaths
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    Medical malpractice deaths in the U.S. are over 500 times higher than accidental gun deaths.

    A Johns Hopkins University study covering eight years of data found there are at least 250,000 malpractice deaths in the U.S. annually. CNBC reports the Johns Hopkins University study presents malpractice deaths on the low end, since other studies show malpractice deaths exceeding 400,000 a year.

    On the other hand, accidental gun deaths hover around 500 a year.

    For example, the Los Angeles Times reports there were 489 accidental gun deaths in 2015, making medical malpractice deaths over 500 times higher than deaths resulting from accidental firearm discharges.

    The number of overall gun deaths in 2015—accidental, homicides, and suicides—was approximately 36,000, two-thirds of which were suicides. So 250,000 malpractice deaths is nearly seven times higher than gun deaths, even when counting intentional gun deaths.

    In 2014, gun control groups were seizing on firearm-related child deaths as a way to push gun control. But Breitbart News reported that more children were accidentally killed via fire and water than were killed by firearms.

    Gun scholar John Lott used Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) tables to show that 36 children under the age of ten were killed in firearm-related accidents in 2010, while the number of children under the age of ten killed in “unintentional fire/burn deaths” was 262, and the number killed in “unintentional drowning” incidents was 609. This means the number children unintentionally killed in fire-related deaths was over seven times higher than the number of children killed in unintentional gun-related deaths, and the number of children killed in unintentional drowning deaths was sixteen times higher than the number of children killed in unintentional gun-related deaths.

    AWR Hawkins is an award-winning Second Amendment columnist for Breitbart News, the host of the Breitbart podcast Bullets with AWR Hawkins, and the writer/curator of Down Range with AWR Hawkins, a weekly newsletter focused on all things Second Amendment, also for Breitbart News. He is the political analyst for Armed American Radio. Follow him on Twitter: @AWRHawkins. Reach him directly at awrhawkins@breitbart.com. Sign up to get Down Range at breitbart.com/downrange.
     
    #411     Sep 24, 2018
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    #412     Sep 25, 2018
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    #413     Oct 6, 2018
  4. A gunman armed with an assault rifle killed 11 people at a Pittsburgh synagogue during Saturday-morning services .
     
    #414     Oct 27, 2018
  5. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    ".... if there were bullets going in both directions"
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    https://abc7chicago.com/family-file...rity-guard-shot-by-midlothian-police/4672776/

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    Family files lawsuit after security guard at Robbins nightclub shot by Midlothian police


    Authorities are investigating what led up to the shooting death of a south suburban security guard at the hands of Midlothian police.


    By Cate Cauguiran, Michelle Gallardo and Eric Horng
    Monday, November 12, 2018 10:28PM
    ROBBINS, Ill. (WLS) --

    A Midlothian police officer is on administrative leave after he fatally shot a 26-year-old nightclub security guard this weekend in south suburban Robbins.

    The guard, identified as Jemel Roberson, was shot at about 4 a.m. Sunday at Manny's Blue Room, where police from multiple agencies in the south suburbs had responded to reports of shots fired.

    Roberson's family filed a federal lawsuit on Monday, calling the shooting "unprovoked" and "unjustified." The complaint said that Roberson had "apprehended one of the perpetrators outside the bar."

    Manny's was ordered temporarily closed, pending a village investigation, Robbins Mayor Tyrone Ward said in a statement.

    A vigil was held Monday evening to remember Roberson, an organist who performed at multiple Chicago area churches.

    "Why? Why did you kill him?" his cousin Candace Ousley asked. "It doesn't make sense."

    RELATED: Midlothian police officer shoots bouncer at Robbins nightclub

    The shooting has sparked an outcry in the south suburbs, where some view the incident as a case of racial bias.

    Roberson's family has hired an attorney who is looking for answers

    "Jemel was trying to save people's lives. He was working security. A shooting had just taken place inside the establishment. So he was doing his job and holding onto somebody until somebody arrived. And a police officer, it's our feeling didn't make the proper assessment and fired and killed Jemel," said attorney Greg Kulis.

    "The police officer just saw a black man," Ousley said. "I believe if he was indeed white, he'd be alive."


    Roberson grew up in Chicago's Wicker Park neighborhood where his lifelong friends remember him as someone who was always a protector.

    "If anyone would mess with me or anything he would step up. He was more of a brother than a friend," said friend Angelina Markin.

    Relatives said he had recently become a father and wanted to become a police officer.

    "He got his life took by people he looked up to, who he wanted to become," Ousley said.
    Authorities are investigating what led up to the shooting. Four other people were shot, sustained non-life-threatening injuries. The sheriff's office also said at least one of wounded was considered to be a shooter, who is now in custody.

    The shootings started with an argument inside a bar. Midlothian police said the responding officer shot Roberson after he saw him with a gun. It was immediately unclear whether the officer identified himself before discharging his weapon.

    The Midlothian police officer who shot Roberson was a four-year veteran of the department.

    As the Cook County Sheriff handles the criminal aspect of this investigation, Illinois State Police are looking into the officer-involved aspect of this shooting.
     
    #415     Nov 13, 2018
  6. Local reporting has the security guard being shot while having detained one of the violent bar patrons on the ground. He had him down, knee in his back and did have his gun out. Apparently the cop saw this and just opened up. If this is the case it's very poor police work and the cop should at a minimum be fired. Criminal charges may apply.
     
    #416     Nov 13, 2018
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  7. This tragedy should be a warning to all CCW holders. You may want to pull your weapon and intervene to stop a crime but police do not know who you are and only see a guy with a gun. Apparently police training has lagged and not all officers are taught that citizens have a right to be armed and that not everyone with a gun is a criminal.
     
    #417     Nov 13, 2018
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  8. Yeah, like, they should so have a Q&A during a shootout, right?
     
    #418     Nov 13, 2018
  9. You need to decide which side of this argument you're on. Now you imply that any cop should be able to shoot anyone they consider a threat, no questions asked. Your buddies over at BLM will be in disagreement.
     
    #419     Nov 13, 2018
  10. smallfil

    smallfil

    What happened to "freeze"? Drop your gun. Police need to be charged when they shoot from the hip! The person with the gun was not pointing it police. If they thought it was a hostage situation, they should have told him to "freeze", drop his gun and put his hands behind his head. That would have enabled them to cuff him and nobody got shot needlessly!
     
    #420     Nov 13, 2018