Give up my guns?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Tsing Tao, Apr 26, 2018.

  1. Poindexter

    Poindexter

    Oh please. A ban is leftists' ultimate goal. You anti-2A liars have tipped your hand and we won't allow you to succeed.

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    #141     May 8, 2018
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'll give it to Alissa Milano here, she - in the second video, does try to engage with sensible commentary. Even if her "facts" are totally manufactured.

     
    #142     May 9, 2018
  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    This guy shot a deer with a pellet gun.
    Police got a warrant to search his house.
    Took his guns.
    Unreasonable search?
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    http://www.marinij.com/article/NO/20180514/NEWS/180519889

    Tiburon deer killer charged with 7 counts


    A man who fatally shot two deer that were foraging in his Tiburon yard last year was charged with a seven-count complaint Monday.

    Mark Dickinson, 54, is facing two counts of animal cruelty, one for a doe and one for a fawn, according to the filing prosecutor, Deputy District Attorney Yvette Martinez-Shaw.

    The other counts, which are alleged violations of the fish and game code, include the unlawful “taking of a mammal;” deer hunting without a license; discharging a deadly weapon near a building; using lead ammunition for game; and taking mammals at an unlawful time, i.e. half an hour before sunrise.

    None of the counts is a felony. Dickinson is scheduled to be arraigned June 11 in Marin County Superior Court.

    His lawyer, Charles Dresow, said Dickinson need not appear in person for the misdemeanor arraignment. Dickinson moved out of state after the episode, which drew the scorn of many residents on the Tiburon Peninsula.

    “The flames of community outrage were fanned by the statements of law enforcement,” Dresow said Monday evening. “Mr. Dickinson trusts that the actual evidence will prove him innocent of animal cruelty.”

    The incident occurred at about 5:15 a.m. Sept. 2 outside Dickinson’s former home at 2322 Mar East St. A neighbor called police after hearing a crashing sound and a pair of loud cracks.

    Tiburon police contacted Dickinson at his property. He told police he was chasing deer off with a pellet gun and did not know whether he struck them, according to a police affidavit.

    An officer told him there were two severely injured deer in the road near the property.

    “Dickinson said, ‘Oh, cool,’ and began laughing,” an investigator wrote in the affidavit.

    Dickinson added, “They’ve been eating our yard and I’ve spent $40,000 on my yard and I’ve done everything I can to keep them out of here and they will not leave.”

    Marin Humane staffers were unable to get to the scene for about 90 minutes. The deer died in the interim.

    Police booked Dickinson on suspicion of felony animal cruelty. The jail released him pending a decision on charges.

    Marin Humane took the dead animals for a necropsy. Internal imaging revealed a bullet in the torso of the doe and a pellet toward the rear of the fawn, according to the police affidavit.

    Police researched gun registration records and learned that Dickinson had purchased a JD Machine Tech TR1 lower receiver in 2014. Police determined that the product, the foundation for a rifle, was “an AR15-type military standard, or ‘mil spec’, lower receiver,” Tiburon police Detective Russell Stiverson wrote in the affidavit.

    “This type of lower receiver can be matched with various calibers of upper receivers to make a complete rifle, potentially capable of firing the type of bullet recovered from the doe,” Stiverson said.

    Based on the witness accounts, the necropsy results and the other investigative findings, police obtained a search warrant for Dickinson’s property. Police executed the warrant on Sept. 8.

    Police confiscated a Beretta handgun, a Glock handgun, numerous boxes of ammunition, magazines and assorted gun accessories. They did not find the JD Machine Tech TR1 lower receiver.
     
    #143     May 15, 2018
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    First, this is in San Francisco. As far as I'm concerned, if you live there you get what you deserve when you come in contact with the law - no matter how crazy it is.

    Second, you cannot discharge a weapon - even a pellet gun - like that to kill an animal, no matter what it is doing to your property, in the middle of a neighborhood and expect no consequences. The guy was an idiot.

    Third, when confronted, he laughed about it, essentially egging on the police in their investigation which then-

    fourth-turned up to reveal he had an illegal (in CA) lower receiver for an AR15. They executed a search warrant based on probable cause and then took his other weapons - on what basis I cannot seem to find in the article or elsewhere.

    At the end of the day, it comes down to "play stupid games, win stupid prizes!"
     
    #144     May 15, 2018
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  5. RRY16

    RRY16

    Put Dealmaker on this story or is he to busy lunching with the Hoi Polloi at the Tiburon Yacht Club?
     
    #145     May 15, 2018

  6. Yes the ban would make it less likely that he would do mass murder with a gun. Only a Republicant would think otherwise.
     
    #146     May 15, 2018
  7. bone

    bone

    If that were true, then Democrats would invoke Article 5 and bring a Bill to the floor to repeal the Second Amendment. Or literally go down trying. I’m afraid that no Democrat on Capitol Hill is as sure of your ban rhetoric as you are.
     
    #147     May 15, 2018
  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Yes, less likely, as I have agreed. To what degree of "less likely" is the question. But failing to remove illegal weapons from circulation means that bad guys get to keep guns while good guys have to surrender them. Hence, this won't happen and you'll never get the other side to agree. Essentially, no solution. And you and your kind will just continue shouting at the rain.

    Things will remain as they are.
     
    #148     May 16, 2018
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Of course they aren't. But then again, they aren't as intelligent as an HVAC repairman in NYC who has all the answers!
     
    #149     May 16, 2018
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  10. Yes, despite speed limits people still speed, so we should do away with them.
     
    #150     May 16, 2018