Giuliani out?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Oct 10, 2019.

  1. easymon1

    easymon1

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    #81     Oct 16, 2020
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    #82     Oct 17, 2020

  3. So, Rudy be having the emails and the dems and lefty media's defense move is to try to shame him for his daughter. Yeh, that will be a winner. Was Kelly Ann Conway's daughter not working for you? And Meghan McCain got to be mighty old after a while so you have wheeled out Cindy McCain to lick Biden's boots because she is butt-hurt over Trump.

    LOSERS ALL OF YOU. Find a real defense for The Big Guy.
     
    #83     Oct 17, 2020
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-has-blown-off-rudy-giulianis-pleas-for-help-as-feds-circle
    Trump Has Blown Off Rudy Giuliani’s Pleas for Help as Feds Circle
    Giuliani appears to be in hot water, and his allies keep asking for Trump’s help. But so far, the ex-president isn’t willing to ride to the rescue of his one-time lawyer.

    In the weeks since the feds raided Rudy Giuliani’s apartment and office in late April, close allies have tried to ferry a slew of emergency requests to former President Donald Trump and his advisers.

    But according to three people familiar with the matter, Trump, as well as several of his legal advisers and longtime confidants, have been hesitant about swooping in to help the embattled Giuliani, who for years worked as Trump’s personal lawyer, a political adviser, and attack dog. Giuliani also served as a major player in the Trump-Ukraine scandal and as a key driver in the former president’s efforts to nullify Joe Biden’s clear victory in the 2020 election.

    Team Trump’s reluctance to intervene comes at a time when federal investigators have ramped up their probe into whether Giuliani’s Ukraine-related work during the Trump era amounted to an unregistered and illegal lobbying operation on behalf of foreign figures.
    So far, no charges have been brought against the former New York City mayor as a result of this investigation, which began in 2019. Trump’s silence has led to simmering frustrations among members of Giuliani’s inner orbit, who privately allege that the ex-president’s team is working to convince him to hang Giuliani out to dry in his hour of need.

    “It’s a question now of whether or not [the former president and his team] want to leave Rudy to fend for himself or if they’re going to take a stand against this,” one person close to Giuliani said last week. “Right now, we don’t know.”

    Among Giuliani allies’ pleas, the three sources said, have been for Trump to issue a strong verbal or written statement saying Giuliani’s work during the Trump-Ukraine saga was done on behalf of then-President Trump—and therefore not part of an illegal foreign lobbying effort. In other words, Trump’s corroboration would be more than good public relations for Giuliani, it would back up a key pillar of Giuliani’s legal argument that he wasn’t lobbying and is innocent of the allegations.

    Other asks have included having the ex-president sign on to a legal motion to have federal investigators throw out any seized communications that Giuliani and his lawyers argue are covered by attorney-client privilege. Further, there have been repeated requests that Trump and his team financially aid Giuliani’s ballooning legal defense and help cover the mounting, sizable expenses.

    Two people close to Trump say they have urged the former president to lay low on the matter and to refrain from making too many statements or commitments on Giuliani and the federal probe. These people have told Trump that it’s unclear what the feds have and that any statement could backfire both on him and on Giuliani. Moreover, various people in Trump’s social and political orbits have been trying to convince the former president for years that Giuliani has been too great a liability for him, and they have suggested that he cut the lawyer loose.

    Many of them still blame Giuliani and his Ukraine shenanigans for getting Trump impeached the first time, and the attorney helped lead the Trumpworld and GOP charge in falsely claiming that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from the 45th U.S. president. In the aftermath of the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol, both Trump and Giuliani have been slammed with lawsuit after lawsuit over their roles in firing up the mob that committed the anti-democratic assault.

    In recent weeks, Trump himself has argued behind closed doors that he wouldn’t want to say Giuliani was doing all of the Ukraine work—which included a trans-Atlantic dirt-digging expedition on the Biden family that led to Trump’s first impeachment—on Trump’s behalf, according to one of the people close to the former president. Trump’s reasoning, this source relayed, is based in the ex-president’s insistence that he didn’t always know what Giuliani was doing during the Ukraine effort or concocting with his Ukrainian pals, several of whom Trump has privately dinged as “idiots.”

    It is also unclear when or if Trump will ultimately sign on to the desired legal motion, with allies to Giuliani expressing consternation over how the ex-president and his lawyers have not jumped at the opportunity.

    On Sunday, Robert Costello, Giuliani’s longtime attorney, said, “We do not know what, if anything, President Trump will do,” when asked by The Daily Beast whether Trump’s legal team would intervene in the effort to scuttle the search warrant. Costello said Giuliani’s attorneys have not formally asked Trump’s legal team to do so. “They can make up their own minds,” he said.

    He added that neither he nor his client has asked Trump to make a statement since federal agents seized Giuliani’s electronic devices.

    Alan Dershowitz, a celebrity lawyer who served on Trump’s legal team during the first impeachment trial, is now actively counseling Giuliani and his attorneys. “I’ve said to them that it would be very good to get people [including Trump] whose materials might have been seized to... become part of the [motion],” Dershowitz said in a brief interview.

    The two sources close to the former president each said Trump has repeatedly expressed sympathy for Giuliani’s ongoing woes but has not committed to overtly assisting his personal lawyer yet. Another person familiar with the situation told The Daily Beast that Giuliani has said he remains convinced that Trump won’t abandon him and will step up when the time is right.

    Over the decades and during his presidency, however, Trump has cemented a reputation for regularly turning his back on close allies and one-time loyalists, including when legal or political pressures became too hot for him. Chief among these former allies is one of Giuliani’s bitter rivals, Michael Cohen, another former personal lawyer and fixer of Trump’s. Cohen turned on his former boss after he felt abandoned by Trump following a 2018 federal raid and has since become an enthusiastic witness for federal investigators who’ve been looking into Trump and his business empire.

    When federal agents executed a search warrant on Cohen’s office in 2018, Trump intervened in the case and hired attorneys who argued that they should be allowed to review seized materials for privileged attorney-client materials before prosecutors could. Whether Trump will intervene similarly in a case involving the warrant against Giuliani remains to be seen.

    Trump did jump in to help some advisers after the authorities came knocking, including Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, and Paul Manafort, all of whom received presidential pardons within the final month of Trump’s term in the White House. In December, The New York Times reported that the then-president had discussed with people close to him the prospect of issuing a pre-emptive pardon to Giuliani and “talked with Mr. Giuliani about pardoning him as recently as [late November].” Ultimately, Giuliani did not receive a pre-emptive pardon, and he has denied that he had a conversation with Trump about the possibility.

    Giuliani has repeatedly argued that his efforts to oust Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch as U.S. envoy to Ukraine were carried out solely on behalf of his client, President Trump. A statement from Trump would help buttress Giuliani’s public case, but it wouldn’t necessarily help him in court.

    “Nothing Donald Trump may say publicly to help Giuliani is likely to get into evidence,” David H. Laufman, a partner at Wiggin and Dana and a former chief of the Justice Department’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section, which oversees FARA prosecutions, told The Daily Beast. “Giuliani’s attorney will be able to cross-examine the government’s witnesses if he’s charged, and Giuliani always has the option of testifying in his own defense. But any press statements by Donald Trump to the effect of ‘Hey, he was just working for me’ almost certainly aren’t coming into evidence.”

    “In the highly improbable scenario that Trump testified for Giuliani, the notion of Giuliani trying to use the attorney-client privilege as a shield would go out the window. The privilege is held by Trump, not by Giuliani,” Laufman continued.

    Long before the search of Giuliani’s apartment, Trump appeared hesitant to say outright that his attorney’s work in Ukraine was conducted solely on the president’s behalf. During the peak of the impeachment inquiry in the fall of 2019, former Fox News host Bill O’Reilly asked Trump what Giuliani was up to in Ukraine.

    “I knew he was going to go to Ukraine and I think he canceled the trip. But you know, Rudy has other clients other than me. I’m one person that he represents,” Trump said.

    Asked if he’d told Giuliani to travel to Ukraine, Trump said: “No.”
     
    #84     May 22, 2021
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

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    #85     May 22, 2021
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Defense lawyers forget to flatten their PDF regarding seizing Rudy's electronics allowing the redactions to be easily removed by CNN. Are Rudy's and his fellow conspirators people completely inept? Did they use CyberNinjas for the retractions?

    Faulty redactions in court document show federal investigators seized more info in case against Rudy Giuliani than previously disclosed
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/politics/giuliani-redactions-investigations/index.html

    New York federal prosecutors investigating Rudy Giuliani have seized material from a wider array of individuals than previously disclosed, including messages from email and iCloud accounts they believe belong to two former Ukrainian government officials, as well as the cell phone and iPad of a pro-Trump Ukrainian businessman, according to a court document unsealed Tuesday.

    The court filing, which contained redacted portions that CNN was able to read by copying and pasting them into another document, also disclosed that federal prosecutors have "historical and prospective cell site information" related to Giuliani and another lawyer, Victoria Toensing, both of whom were the subjects of search warrants executed late last month.

    The Ukrainians include the former Prosecutor General of Ukraine Yuriy Lutsenko, the former head of the Ukrainian Fiscal Service Roman Nasirov and businessman Alexander Levin.

    The filing, written by an attorney for an indicted former Giuliani ally Lev Parnas, describes a chart in which federal prosecutors described the scope of the materials they sought and seized beginning in late 2019 and continuing through earlier this year.

    hough prosecutors had previously indicated that their investigation was expansive and encompassed people beyond Giuliani and Toensing, they hadn't publicly identified the other recipients of subpoenas or subjects of search warrants.
    Prosecutors are investigating whether Giuliani violated foreign lobbying laws by operating on behalf of Ukrainian officials when he sought the ouster of the then-US ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch, while urging Ukraine to investigate Trump's political rival, then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, and his son Hunter, CNN has reported.

    Giuliani has said his activities in Ukraine were done in his capacity as a lawyer for his former client, former President Donald Trump, and that he "never represented a Ukrainian national or official before the United States government."

    Prosecutors appear to have pursued material connected to Giuliani's efforts abroad. Lutsenko, whose email account prosecutors targeted, met with Giuliani several times, and several former US State Department officials testified that he was part of a smear campaign against Yovanovich. Lutsenko falsely said that Yovanovich was speaking negatively about Trump and that she gave him a "do not prosecute" list.

    The nature of prosecutors' interest in material from Nasirov's email and iCloud accounts and from Levin's iPhone and iPad wasn't immediately clear.

    Parnas' lawyer, Joseph Bondy, filed the letter on behalf of attorneys for all of the defendants in Parnas' case, asking a federal judge for a status conference on materials seized by authorities in the searches executed on Giuliani and Toensing in late April, saying the searches produced documents relevant to the case against Parnas, former Giuliani ally Igor Fruman and a third defendant, Andrey Kukushkin. All three have pleaded not guilty.

    A spokesman for the Manhattan US Attorney's office declined to comment.

    Bondy declined to comment, and Robert Costello, a lawyer for Giuliani, could not immediately be reached for comment. Toensing's lawyer declined to comment.

    Bondy wrote that the evidence seized "likely includes e-mail, text, and encrypted communications" between Giuliani, Toensing, former President Donald Trump, former Attorney General Bill Barr, "high-level members of the Justice Department, Presidential impeachment attorneys Jay Sekulow, Jane Raskin and others, Senator Lindsey Graham, Congressman Devin Nunes and others, relating to the timing of the arrest and indictment of the defendants as a means to prevent potential disclosures to Congress in the first impeachment inquiry of then-President Donald. J. Trump."

    In prior court filings, prosecutors disclosed they seized 18 electronic devices from Giuliani in late April and had covertly searched his iCloud account in 2019; they also acknowledged they took Toensing's cell phone during the April searches.

    Because both Giuliani and Toensing are lawyers, they have been at odds with prosecutors over whether and how authorities may be able to access the material seized from those searches while protecting attorney-client privilege.
     
    #86     May 25, 2021
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  7. Cuddles

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    #87     May 25, 2021
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Rudy Giuliani BANNED from practicing law in NY over ‘false statements to courts & public’ while he was Trump’s lawyer
    https://www.the-sun.com/news/3150702/rudy-giuliani-banned-practicing-law-new-york/

    The decision was released by the New York courts in a hefty statement, confirming that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani issued false statements following the results of the 2020 presidential election.

    They added that the misinformation was issued "in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump’s failed effort at reelection in 2020."

    "These false statements were made to improperly bolster respondent’s narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential election was stolen from his client," the statement added.

    They then went on to conclude that Giuliani's actions threatened public interest and therefore "warrants interim suspension from the practice of law."

    Rudy Giuliani has been under pressure last year over his involvement with the Trump "Stop the Steal" campaign, as well as his ties to Ukraine.

    Back in January, the New York State Bar Association said that it had opened an inquiry into whether Giuliani should remain a member.

    It sought to ban him over remarks he made during a Donald Trump rally ahead of the Capitol riot on January 6.

    Its bylaws state that "no person who advocates the overthrow of the government of the United States" shall remain a member.

    Removal from the bar association, a voluntary membership organization dating to 1876, is not the same as being disbarred and banned from practicing law - as he has now been.

    Giuliani was Trump’s personal lawyer and played a prominent role in the Republican president’s spurious fight to overturn his election loss to President Joe Biden.

    The bar association said it had received hundreds of complaints about Giuliani’s work to perpetuate Trump’s baseless voter fraud claims, which culminated in fiery remarks in Washington as Congress met to count Biden’s Electoral College win.

    “If we’re wrong, we will be made fools of, but if we’re right, a lot of them will go to jail,” Giuliani told the crowd.

    “Let’s have trial by combat.”

    Among the people calling for the bar association to remove Giuliani were Reps Mondaire Jones and Ted Lieu, who sent a letter to the organization saying that his actions were "absolutely disqualifying from remaining in good standing."

    Back in April, investigators seized electronic devices from Giuliani's apartment after executing a search warrant as part of a federal probe.

    Giuliani, who served as NYC mayor from 1994 until 2001, has denied any wrongdoing.

    The United States Attorney’s office in Manhattan and the FBI had reportedly been trying to obtain search warrants for Giuliani's electronics for months.

    Obtaining the warrant marks a step up in the criminal investigation into Giuliani's dealings with Ukraine and into whether he broke any lobbying laws while working for Trump.

    Speaking to Fox News, Giuliani explained what happened on the morning the FBI searched his New York apartment.

    "At about 6 a.m there was a banging on my door, a very loud banging, and outside there was a group of an endless number of FBI agents," Giuliani said.

    "Usually a person who has been a former assistant U.S. attorney, a U.S. attorney, a mayor, the associate attorney general, usually they receive a subpoena, not have their home raided."

    However, the former New York City mayor believes that the FBI is trying to frame him and that the only lawyers that would be raided would be connected to Trump.
     
    #88     Jun 24, 2021
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    LOL!!!!!


    Maybe he can get a full time job at My Pillow
     
    #89     Jun 24, 2021
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #90     Jul 8, 2021