Ghost of If You Can Draw A Straight Line

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  1. k p

    k p

    Curious to ask if these upper and lowers levels outlined by AMT were in part derived from this chart posted earlier.

    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=143837&d=1394026749

    The levels are close, but the 3722 for example doesn't exactly match up with 3726 as shown, although the lower level of 3702 roughly matches up more precisely with the 3700 presented here. The levels of course don't have to be exact to the point, but I'm curious if this is the chart used to arrive at these levels.
     
    #371     Mar 11, 2014
  2. niko

    niko

    Hehe, I thougth 1700 was a typo. Sorry.
     
    #372     Mar 11, 2014
  3. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Indirectly. Price rose past this then sank back into it on the 6th, then made a higher high before dropping to 3685 and rising back into this level. So clearly it was or has been important.
     
    #373     Mar 11, 2014
  4. k p

    k p

    Yes, I follow what you are saying. Here is my hourly chart as I have drawn, but of course the channel and these levels are drawn in as a result of your analysis and example.

    Sadly, if I was drawing this, I would be inclined to draw far too many lines, probably at every swing high or low, but maybe keeping only those where price reacts to the level at least twice as opposed to just going through it. I clearly need to study hourly charts much more thoroughly.
     
    #374     Mar 11, 2014
  5. Roffe

    Roffe

    The important levels will usually show up on the larger bar intervals as well (this is what sort of makes them important, right?). This level was a former weekly high.
     
    #375     Mar 12, 2014
  6. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    The ES has reached a downtrendline drawn from the 7th. It could rally from here all the way back to 80. That's the nature of auction markets. But the DTL is a gauge of demand, and demand is weak. Therefore price could just as easily fall to the mean of its trend channel, currently around 1825. Since it was at 1735 only a month ago, this is not beyond the realm of possibility.

    The NQ, on the other hand, is breaking through the same DTL from the same date. The mean of its trend channel is 3640.
     
    #376     Mar 12, 2014
  7. Roffe

    Roffe

    ES is also testing, from above, the midpoint of last week's rally. NQ did this yesterday and has during the European session so far rejected it from below.
     
    #377     Mar 12, 2014
  8. niko

    niko

    Db, regarding today, after the hinge was formed you mentioned that you saw an entry at 74 and that anything below 75 was fair game. Was it because all of those things were occurring below the apex of the hinge?

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    #378     Mar 12, 2014
  9. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    This was a case where you just had to see it. The swings were so incredibly wide and even violent that it seemed highly unlikely that the hinge would be able to contain the discovery. Traders had no interest whatsoever in finding equilibrium, so an escape from the hinge was likely to take place long before the apex was reached and it would likely not turn back. Therefore using the RtTk was more likely to provide a good entry than standing aside politely and waiting for the bus to come to a complete stop and open its doors and wait for one to ascend the steps and pay his fare and find a nice window seat before it got back into gear.
     
    #379     Mar 12, 2014
  10. niko

    niko

    Well, still a long trip in my bus to get to that station, but thanks will keep this one for the future.
     
    #380     Mar 12, 2014
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