i gotta say, i hate this thread. i don't think there's one thing i've read here that i can actually use to make money. if you think i'm wrong, go find someone who's never traded before, make them read this thread...and then see how they do trading. it won't help at all. YOU NEED A POSITIVE EXPECTANCY SYSTEM....PERIOD. have fun finding one.....these endless quotes sure aren't going to help you.