I traded ZN today for the first time - and I kind of like it. Most folks on this board are obsessed with ES. ZN seems so thick, so slow, and very choppy. I use trendlines to trade ES and it seems that using trenlines on ZN is pretty much a losing proposition if trading intraday. I'm wondering if there are any other trend indicators work better? Or is this market so choppy intraday that its best to countertrend trade for a few ticks at a time by selling only at the ask and buying only at the bid.