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Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by charts, Mar 31, 2010.

  1. Beginner Level firt segment.

    I'm skipping some prebeginner so we can get to the very tangible parts.
     
    #451     May 18, 2010
  2. you see the following on the topical heirarchy

    a. Annotating Panes
    i. Price
    1. Parallelograms
    a. Sub BBT’s
    b. BBT’s
    c. Tapes
    d. Traverses
    e. Channels
    f. Econometric

    Et will not lay it out as presented but you can see the topics.

    Getting the parallelograms straight is not difficult.

    The Trendline is the foundation and it contains points 1 and 3.

    In terms of trading you Enter on point 1. This can be a tough concept if you do not know what you are doing or how you are doing it.

    Pragmatically, in time a beginner cannot take all the trades that represent the market's detailed offer. He just takes FTT to FTT trades.

    the FF is the sub BBT on the list.

    bar 1 and bar 2 begin the parallelogram. Points 1 and 3 on these bars are on the right side. to get this straight you do as I suggested. You slide a vertical line segment (It could be a rule when you are annotating a printout) from the blank space on the screen on the right going leftward to the the bar 1 and bar 2. All bars before this are history and you are beginning just now. Later bars will be added.

    this line will have a slope that is positive or negative. If thsi is not possible, then you wait until it is possible as a beginner. There is no rush to learn.

    From this construction you complete a parallelogram. this requires some thinking and choosing to make the container the largest so nothing sticks out of the container.

    Doing this 100 times with two bars is a good idea. wrestle with your desire to tell yourself you already know how to do this.

    The objective is to do it unconsciously and only as required. Doing for each new bar is NOT on the table at all.

    What you drew was a trend during two pars. the one objective is to see the whole trend from beginning to end and to know perfectly and certainly the beginning and the end.

    for all trends the beginning and end are an IDENTITY in terms of thinking. botyh will soon become known as point 1's.

    Check off doing 100 2 bar parallelograms. consider each as a trend and the trend is projected out into the futre for the future to fill.

    Next lets take up watching the futre fill up our parallelogram trend.
     
    #452     May 18, 2010
  3. A third bar arrives.

    It has two relationships and is under the volume condition extablished for the two bars. the volume condition is either increasing or decreasing. In you mind establish that increasing is dominant and decreasing is non dominant.

    You have two bars and the relative dominance of what is happening. By looking at volume and connecting the tops of the volume bars you have a slope for volume which is measured by you as one way or another.

    we have two variables each wityh two possibilities and they repreasent a set of combinations of two things taken two @ a time. this is four possibilities. Which one is always certain and this is an invariant finite set.

    This is your smallest M finite set to which we will add.
    Take each element to the Analysis rule set you have. Do analysis for each combination. for each of the four you get that you have a trend and it is continuing and it is either dominant or non dominant. you have completed analysis and you take the resulting element of the finitie set to D of MADA which is Decision making.

    three words make up what you are bringing to decision making. for the 100 annotations you did write three words on each annotation.

    long, dominant, continuing is an example. All the finite set elements of the Analysis set have the same decision fintie set decision word. The word is HOLD. There are four other words but they have not appeared as yet.

    Hold arrives in the last A of MADA which is Action. You take the Action indicated by the decision. Holding as an action is NOT behavioral it is only MENTAL and it, metally is what is called a "permission". The particular permission you got was to have closure on a cycle of MADA.

    Any person can get tracked at this poiont into believing he knows what he read. The person does NOT know and he misles himself into believing he knows and he wants to move on and in all likelihodd he was "too smart" to do 100 sets of bar1 and bar 2.

    What is knowing? Knowing is having a resourse that is available. as we see here over and over people do not have a needed resourse when they need it. Having a needed resourse means it is available and usable without summoning it. It is more thatn that . It is available and usable and it automatically gets used properly without thinking consciously. And it is more. It is all of this and it is done correctly at the right time without flaw.

    This was a lesson broken down into a post using very small pieces and putting those pieces together.

    you can print this post 10 times and take a hi liter and do NO MORE THAN 5 HILITES PER PRINT AND NOT GET THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL PIECES BY DOING THOSE TEN PRINTS.

    Will anyone find that out and think about how to get resourses built in thier individual minds.

    As T666 says to explain his handicap: Why don't you just give it to me!!!!!!! This guy is a real fuckoff!!!!. And his main talent is showing us daily that he is doing fucking off all the time.

    I am trying to get people who have ommitted building resourses in their minds to begin to do that process. It is too late for some people. So I do not give them anything. for everyone else I go to where you are and bring you forward as you choose to move forward..

    So I have finished, finally, my incidental humor about a local fuckoff and now I am going to add another bar in the next post.
     
    #453     May 18, 2010
  4. On your 100 sheets of two bars each pile them up into the piles representing each of the four possibilites in your finite M set.

    Now you can take one sheet of each pile and add the same relative bar to that sheet oyur choice of additional bar. Enough. You see that many kinds of third bars can be added and you see by combination theory that there are a finite number. you see that this ripples ttrough MADA as well.

    What we need to do is assimilate all of this in the most efficient and briefest way possible.

    We just use the three zones I have provided. Seek that post out and open to it and do some high liting to pick off all the small pieces in that post.

    Acceleration via a ve is one zone's focus. you can do some examples for yourself by adding a bar to the two bars for the four possibilites you have already. What is the corresponding volume addition that goes with the third bar.

    Right here I think a lot of people reach their experience limit and their past assimilation limt. This was the death tolling limit for most traders. We are now going to step over the bodies.

    Under acceleration, we change the container on the level of the container (two bars is a fractal called sub for now or FF in this thread).

    For a beginner, he takes each of the possibilities added to the M finite set to the Anlysis finite set to get a match with an element in that set.

    You discover that three words still work and you see that only the parallelogram was modified. Adding a bar changes or does not change the parallelogram. To get MADA steps done, therefore, there is no behavioral change only mental closure is reached.

    The inside zone does not even change the parallelogram. So we have things made under this circumstance.

    For both acceleration under ve and being in the "inside zone", the beginner is in HOLD and not exhibiting a behavioral action.

    Did volume changing affect anything on the charts? No it couldn't but DO NOT take my word. where does volume changing have an effect? The answer is with the trader. It prepares the trader to give his attention to what, mentally is important. I am stating that this is where a lot of people get behind the curve. trades need to stay ahead of the Present and be working in the space where the future is forming and, then, coming into the Present.

    Where is our buddy for this? The log. Lets say we were working on these three bars as part of any day. By now the log would have about 10 to 18 rows filled in.

    So far for two of the three zones it has been pretty calm and we only got one answer on the D column of our trading log.

    We have dealt with the ltl and inside so next lets take up the rtl with consideration to the third bar.
     
    #454     May 18, 2010
  5. we now deal with fanning because of the third bar's behavior.

    Lets go through the seconds of the log column 6 labeled seconds.

    We are filling in the ES column as well each time a new case arrives. More than that we are filling in a new row each timea new case arrives on the YM chart as well. The YM demands more graphite than the ES. In three ES bars we gat 8 bars on the YM and each can have a few cases on a new bar.

    At this point, you can see how I am reading the participants and their contemporary spaces and this is my attempt to head to those spaces and get things taken care of.

    In 300 seconds of a five minute bar that is in the fanning zone, things are happeming. for the other two zones behavvioral action is not required. For a very skilled trader, behavioral action may be required on bar 3.

    You can write out the order of events to get to a bar approaching the rtl. It is a series of case changes of the ES and many more on the YM.

    All the zone discussion has been after point 3.

    On Bar three what does begining with a sym mean? What doe it mean when the sym changes color? What does it mean when the volume is declining on bar 3? How and Why can a bar get to the rtl? If this trend ends, where are we on the next slower fractal? The answer is the next point on that parallelogram.

    Here, you either get out of the cases or you do not. When you do not, you fan and the next bar is a repeat of the bar 3 where the parallelogram is of lesser extreme in slope.

    When you get out of the cases, fanning is off the table and you are just looking at the rtl zone and ending the overlap of the trend parallelogram.

    The bar either closes outside the rtl or it doesn't. If it doesn't then you are in the inside zone still. If it did you ended the overlap and are annotating a new sub using the other end of the bar as point 1.

    For the beinning trader there is no such thing as a trade on bar 3 if he started annotating on bar 1; he is not capable of being in the market at this stage of learning. If a person has learned to annotate subs, then he is capable of doing the YM also and seeing the sub sub level.

    Welcome to the world of being a very successful trader.

    BUT you still do not have any resourses as yet. you have to go to the part II Trader to understand why.

    We moved through an entire aprallelogram on the fastest ES level of observation as a leraning experience except we left out adding mental resourses since none of this added the long term memory called inference. If possible try to recognize the need for mental resourses and set about acquiring them.

    All people create their own answers and those answers come from the mind. When someone gives you answers you do not get those answers; they are just something communicatd to you.

    This post takes you down inside bars as the seconds pass. Accompanying all of this are many other panes that are equally informative.

    It is not easily possble to explain what doing work is. Work is how experience is gained purposefully. There is a lot of bullshit out there on "proving". This bullshit is all produced by minds that do not do work.

    Intelligence is a funny thing. Intelligence does not accomplish any work per se. Intelligence is just a status and a kind of possession unlike resources from long term memory. We are getting memory built and making it functional through a vehicle called work. You must work.

    The ant rolling a road apple up the side of his ant hill uses his feelers all the time. This is like all the feelers here who are appendixes to ants who are rolling horseshit into their residences each day. It is so much fun to watch.
    What is especially fun is to watch bigshots try to roll their horsehit up hill during regular trading hours. I have an ant made out of a railroad spike and heavy welded wire. He has a name too; soon he is taking a trip so he can enjoy some new views.
     
    #455     May 18, 2010
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  6. Okay. So far we have covered one level of parallelogram. It was the bar to bar smallest ES observable level of parallelogram.

    On the YM 2 minute, usually you see one faster fractal opbservable paralleogerm which is annotated and which helps you deal with any bar to bar Q's on the ES from a learning and MADA point of view.

    Each completed ftt to ftt on the level discussed is a point to point movement on the next slower fractal.

    For reference on DKM 110 1 FT 1, which has bars numbered, this would have been bars 30 , 31 and 32 to complete an ftt to ftt on the move from poijnt 1 to point 2 on the TF. Bars 33 through 36 inclusive was the move from point 2 to point 3 on the TF. And bars 36 and 37 was the move from point 3 to the FTT.

    The first move of the long TF was bars 37, 38 and 39 to begin with and then a series of events ended the long TF and reverted the bars from the initial FTT on bar 37 to obtain a new final FTT of the TF short.

    This brings us to a comment on what separates the work of building bar to bar trends from ftt to ftt from slower level FTT to FTT pattern building. It is the limits of the parallelogram that is being applied.

    To begin learning it was necessary to have a parallelogram outside of these limits, i. e., a sloping trendline parallelogram.

    To ease into beginning under other situations is a brief set of tasks. Just get to the point of having two bars. Now, all that is excluded are OB's and laterals.

    By regarding an OB as a bar with two points upon it, generally, you see that it will be fitting into two ftt to ftt observable trends. The lateral becomes a more than two bar case and is trated as a single bar on the ftt to ftt level. Use the zonings appropriately.

    To turn this post into long term memory ordinarily takes a long set of Q's and A's because these individual pieces are usually just read and not exposed to critical thinking. Critical thinking begions the process of creating the mental resourse in long term memory.

    How does a person's background play out in this process? All fifferently trained people do it in different ways. an English major would delight in considering syntax and the structure of complete thoughts called sentences.

    A geologist would turn to crystals and their structures and replications.

    An organic chemist would turn to how carbon works with other elements and complexes.

    Musicians, artists and everyone else's profession, occupation or hobbies show how all bodies of knowledge and associated skills are acquired and become long term memory as a resourse. the mamory collection is referred to as a differentiated body or collection and that shows how the brain organized it as part of its operating procedure in human beings.

    A lot of things people do well is the result of practice. I call doing practice, work. Without work the mind does not acquire according to its operating needs.

    I think we can have breakthroughs in all the issues here in this thread. By going thropugh all the levels of acquisition to the expert level, we can do a sort of check off and pin point what is missing in the differentiation of various participants. Perhaps, people can use this as they passforward to others. Passing forward is the most common "check off procedure for the passer. He gets to know quite well just what it is he has to review and bring up to snuff to help others.

    What does skipping steps in doing the work represent? It is just the creation of voids here and thee in the growing differentiation?

    Ordinarily, a person can take one of the video recorded whole days (YM, ES, etc) and go through it in 40 minutes to do the trades of the day. This is just a statement of the mind's real time capability compared to the passage of real time in a market over a 6 and 1/2 hour RTH period.
     
    #456     May 18, 2010
  7. Here is a pre beginner outline I skipped putting up.
     
    #457     May 18, 2010
  8. The last part of the beginner.
     
    #458     May 18, 2010
  9. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    either others remember you asked the same question before or they think that question was already answered. Anyway the answer is yes, here is the signal
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    #459     May 18, 2010
  10. dkm

    dkm

    I do not wish to be impertinent but these statements do not seem to agree. I attach a rework of my 3 TF's and corresponding FTTs. Bar 55 reaches the LTL so this cannot be an FTT. However, if I begin to construct a long TF from bar 58, then my TF gets cancelled by bar 63. This is going to require some more thought.
     
    #460     May 19, 2010
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