Getting down and dirty is where the rubber meets the road ...

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by charts, Mar 31, 2010.

  1. gucci

    gucci

    Dax 04.19.2010 Part2
     
    #191     Apr 20, 2010
  2. That would assist a number of others without any question.

    I could turn a failed trader into a profitable trader in probably one day, but I'd be scratching my head in wonder at why I'd do that.

    It will be interesting to see what progress and speed you can get out of a novice.
     
    #192     Apr 20, 2010
  3. emac

    emac

    Jack,

    Would you show a copy of the log you keep, blank and filled as an example.

    Thank you.
    emac
     
    #193     Apr 20, 2010
  4. gucci

    gucci

    Dax 20.04.2010 Part1
     
    #194     Apr 20, 2010
  5. I'll go through these Q's along with reasons for the weekly report coming from FF and all the others who are moving forward. Further, I will use the log asked about to tie all of these things together.
     
    #195     Apr 20, 2010
  6. The volunteered weekly progress report as I see what happened including pm's to me.

    We moved from a scratch start to having the essentials of using critical thinking to build a foundation. This is great progress.

    as we saw this made making money in profit segments something that occurs rather infrequently during the day. This was because most of the time is a relaxed situation and the market is simply filling in the containers as the future comes into the present.

    We do not have to concentrate of use stops for any reason. The three tools of acceleration, expansion and fanning are iterative refinements that keep the pattern flowing on all levels. A green bookmark came into the picture to facilitate wash trades, if any.

    As SKO says this process of learning to build the mind can involve a lot of work and intiative in a critical thinking modus.

    going from a scratch start the following was accomplished in the order listed as a response to a order suggested.

    1, a display was held to and all things done were done manually.

    2. yellow boxes appeared as a statement of learning most of the cases. Later other cases were added so all cases are on the table.

    3. Annotating price on the fast fractal was done and slowly some omissions were picked up upon. The vocabulary got refined and translation finally appeared to describe the progress of price.

    4. drills were recognized as the modus for getting long term memory installed to build inference itno something useful.

    5. reading the drills was done.

    6. the focus on doing work was related to wants more than needs but needs as a consideration was considered.

    7. the use of time for doing drills was recognized as a progression of tasks.

    8. tasks were added to the lifestyle of the family and a job.

    9. a realization of the way work is done to gain facility in trading was made conscious.

    10. A ranking of the combined priorities for the family, the job and the work of building the mind was determined. the starting point for bcominga competent trader was reached.

    11. there was a significant recognition of what was done yesterday was not necessarily going to become available as "today" unfolds. But it was possible to know that some things were available and that they could be built upon. This use of a limited established inference was multiplied as every day passed.

    12. It was recognized that there is a limit as to how far into the night a person could go in accomplishing pseudo drills based upon wants over needs.

    13. question after question arose and a didactic was not entered into to deal with the questions (except as statements of status reports by pm; that is still under consideration as a possibility.

    14, input was continually accepted and PROCESSED to move ahead in the specific space built by the learner. It is a very organized and defined space.

    15. At some point volume reentered the picture and it was recognized that there is a possible relationship of volume and price. Getting a start on price is preceding getting a handle on volume which will lead to getting a handle on the pattern.

    16. there is a tacit recognition of the pattern and lickily the focus is on the beginning of the pattern and how it involves 2 volume moves for one price move. the period from FTT to BO of RTL has become a conscious consideration that is skimmed over at this point.

    As you see, there is a foundation being built and the concept of building blocks is in play. aha's are happening and the process is primarily focussed on details rather than concepts. we are stil in a vertical orientation and the horizontal nature of the markets is still counterintuitive.

    the pace of activity here is continually picking up for all levels of moving forward. For FF, he feels like the effort so far compared to the prior two years of progress for mim. My measure of that comparison is that it a spectacular as a progression. So we will knock off another two years this week.

    Now we combine this with the SKO Q's and the log request.
     
    #196     Apr 20, 2010
  7. The log request is what I feel is normal in this day and age. It is where SKO's answers ly.

    A person becoming a trader, at some point, converts just watching and "concentrating" to an alternative setting of focus.

    It is a process of "getting organized" that comes into every endeavor. A classic example is trating trading as a business and businesses generate records of the progress of the business. Accounting is the more or less trite part of the business. It is mearlet one or two parts of 12 or so parts of the BUSINESS PLAN.

    RESTAURANTS HAVE MENUS, EMPLOYEES AND A METHOD OF OPERATING.
    THERE IS LOCATION, LOCATION AND LOCATION, too

    MADA is in place and will begin to be done when we move to real time.

    Each of the four parts will have rules to follow.

    M of MADA was the focus when we begun from scratch and wnet backwards to find the cases and hoe transaltion and peaks and troughs were fit into a pattern. That got us to the beginning point which is now history and missed by most people in ET.

    To best take the market's offer a context is established and the offer is taken as the market unfolds. Bar numbers are the reference point in time for this trading activity.

    Making money proceeds smoothly as bars form and collect during a trend of price. trends follow the pattern.

    Here I will build a portrait log for your use.

    In the middle is the bar column and to its right is a vernier column for the sceonds of the bar as they count down to zero.

    There are 81 bars and 300 seconds per bar. this is for the timing of the market. as on a clock we have a five minute hand and a second hand whereone lap is 300 seconds. This is our world in terms of time.

    we deal with reasoning by having MADA. Four finite sets. We do not memorize per se but we build inference which is from long term memory and which is placed in short term memory where we work with sensing as time passes.

    MADA is related to the clock we use in the middle of the log; it is the other axis of the log.

    waht we do is build a context by completing row after row. we so not do concentration or losingconcentratiion. We do a simple simple routine.

    the second column is our first entry and after that we note what we sensed and make it a written context.

    On the left is the index (ES) on the right is its leading index (YM). This is four columns

    For each change of either ES or YM we do a MADA row..

    The green sentence is the essence of PEP and its applications. Cases are entered in these two columns. This is knowing that you know.

    Three columns deal with the three nested fracatls and they appear from left to right going from fastest to slowest. they add to the log the order of events of the patterns in each fractal.

    as you recognize we need to interpose a column for peaks and troughs. or something else volume oriented. The something else is the context where the volume is doing its thing. PACE value is what is called "sufficient". I put the volume column to the left of the trhee fractal pattern columns.

    By now we have avocabulary for the columns. It is over 100 words or symbols for words or context.

    I put a blank row between bars. The group of rows forming a bar is 5 to 10 rows, one for each MADA lap. We have 8 of the 12 columns.

    What else is needed? Nothing really but I do have four more columns devoted to leading indicators of the columns that are discussed above.

    as you see these 8 columns allow be to trade on volume signals related to the order of events of the three fractals. I write in the fractals what I am looking for at about the row it will occur. I write in "looking for" on front of the next item in the order of events.

    at this point it is important to make a simple point.

    "what separates the OODA trader from the MADA trader is how the mind is used."

    In this thread both views were expressed. MADA focuses on how the market offer unfolds in an order of events. Perception is based on sensing (10%) and what is already in the mind in an organized body of long term memory (90%).

    There is a subject called risk management. it is part of OODA by necessity. OODA requires concentration on the bet made and the behavioral actions done to protect the bet. Here a person concentrates as his stop is hit and he loses capital. The mind is used to bet and then concentrate. This engenders rational emotions of anxiety, fear and anger.

    Logging is the essential activity of doing MADA wherby inference is summoned from the mind to match what is sensed and that result is logged to create row upon row that forms the context of the order of events.

    Let us turn to SKO's questions.
     
    #197     Apr 20, 2010
  8. YVW, my privilege.
     
    #198     Apr 20, 2010
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  9. I looked up a good volume monitoring chart that is bar related.

    Use different colors of pens to work up the chart.



    Write in just below the matrix the bar number at the PRV corresponding level.

    Another veersion of this utility chart annotaes the skill level regions traders can adhere to.

    drill.

    1. As time passes use the time lines to place points and scribe point to point the completion of the 5 minute bar.

    2. Tailor it to k200 and DAX by using linear equations of ratios. The vertical columns are the market PACE ranges.

    3. as the chart fills up (say 15 lines), change colors occasionally.

    4. Make the charts part of your debriefing to further under stand how PACE migrates during the day. Associate the internals 1600 bar drills for the cases and the regions where they occur for market PACE. this is putting the pieces together.

    5. File the charts with your notes for the day. (date and inital)
     
    #199     Apr 20, 2010
  10. Here is the chart to drill with.

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    Go through the process of drawing lines and become familiar with the line shapes for surges and stalls of volume.

    Get aquainted with how many lines it takes to see a change of PACE as the am proceeds and the pm picks up after settlement.

    Do the process of digesting how the midday period works in markets.

    All of this is knowledge acquisition that tempers your inference. By doing this sort of drill on bars as they form the mutations of price cases will gain more relavance and the timing of when in the bar the final mutation is established. As this becomes clear, you get to keep your focus on how to transition to a new bar forming. It is like the carryover from day to day but on a bar to bar level which happens about 12 times an hour or 70 to 80 times a day.

    At this point you have built an 8 column log and now you have a volume recording sheet that gives you surges and lulls in the forming of a bar.

    IBGS shifts will also become apparent as a coordinated volume-price phenomena.
     
    #200     Apr 20, 2010