Getting down and dirty is where the rubber meets the road ...

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by charts, Mar 31, 2010.

  1. Jack, here you see my brain suddenly identifying fractals within fractals. The dashed lines are fractals that you didn't have on your reference but are lines which I suddenly saw and to me I see no reason why they wouldn't be valid (based on my knowledge level)?

    This is where it can become complex. One fractal builds the next one, which builds the next one, which is nested inside a fractal of a fractal. :eek:
     
    #171     Apr 18, 2010
  2. Jack,

    so we can be on the same page, this is what you are looking at this evening for the opening of the k200 ?

    Thanks !
     
    #172     Apr 18, 2010
  3. French Fry,
    what I have mentioned to you is starting a few days in the past to build,form to bottom up, all the nested fractals.

    this wasn't possible and that is usually how it goes. By waiting 9 more days you will get the same result by reading the thread.

    As you are notiving, the pattern is simple and unavailable to you as yet. By not doing the 10 complete error free sheets on copying the pattern illustration you chose to forego gwetting you first views of the pattern.

    formal education engneders a series of learning levels. Embedded in a couple of them is the introduction of extrapolating from given information to new additional information. It is either deduced of induced. You do induction in lieu of deduction.

    What I did to get to the next trading session was annotae a chart from a practicioner who has a suitable platform working.

    As you see some contributors are using snipppets which form tables (matrices) that are good pragmatic references for the market at hand. Working with market characteristics is a good practice.

    the pattern has three price moves and correspondingly four volume moves. A poster ask what a move was and he got an answer; refer to it.

    The price move from 1 to 2 has two volume moves associated with it. the price move from 2 to 3 has one volume move associated with it. The last price move has one volume move associated with it. By reading the above sentences and keeping track of the P and V moves and adding them up, you see three price moves and four volume moves. If you do not, do not worry about it, most people cannot get this far in thinking.

    Fractals contain the pattern. The pattern is completed, or if not what has formed is merged into the prior pattern to more fully complete it. you refer to this as complex. The reason for your expression is where you are in dealing with complexity. complexity is dealt with by critical thinking and inventing is not part of that when the subject is logically complete internally.

    So far you pick to do what you want to do. The alternative is to pick to do what you need to do. By skipping parts on the path, you get to go back and do those parts or get stuck.

    I introduced the order of events and building a foundation upon which to put building blocks. By not having a foundation and adding wanted building blocks, the voids of needed foundation and needed building blocks limits the building process until it stalls and remains incomplete.

    Imagine the nesting of fractals going from the finest granularity to the multi year fractal. This array is noise free and has no anomalies. Having this enables the user to extract the full offer of the markets.

    Why did the pattern emerge from the deductive reasoning? This question is rhetorical for most people. There are many paths to the pattern intellectually speaking.

    How does it suddenly become visible to a person?

    When does a person suddenly realize that the end of a trend and the beginning of a trend are synonimous (and having opposite sentiment).

    Failure to traverse is the name given to this instant. why did not other approach ever deal with this concept. Why does Pring not understand the question regarding the fact that trends overlap.

    How would it be possible that trends do not overlap?

    trading involves dealing with the Present (called NOW) and having you mind make available the correct inference to match what is being sensed. therefore, expertise in trading involves having a fully differentiated mind.

    you begin with a skelton of inference. you mind builds this skelton into a fully operation and fully differentiated state, by assembling the pieces and adding them to the foundation.

    Intellectually, this process is very well defined in every field of endeavor; we are simply copycats doing the same. The process is expedited simply because the process has been completed by others.

    CW is filled with myths. PEP is a myth buster it turns out.

    Noise is efined as market aspect a given system cannot handle.

    Chaos has the same definition.

    TA not working has the same definition.

    There is a huge bucket of myths that go into the bucket simply because what is going on in the market could not be handled.

    All of the past conditional statements go into a similar bucket.

    I thank all of my peers here who are contributing to this thread. Everyone is a peer of everyone else simply because each of us brings fresh thoughtful views to the tqable based upon our experience. As jem points out, there is no point in engaging with dickheads.
     
    #173     Apr 18, 2010
  4. As you look at the pane where the volume pattern is placed. you see that the slower fractals form carriers for the faster fractals. each single slower move has four faster fractal moves being carried.

    Visibility, on the volume bar pane, may not, superficially, be available. This can be dealt with on the volume pattern pane in one of two ways: make it visible or keep it invisable on the carrier.

    Slope on the volume pattern represents dominance or non dominance. This comes from the HS and its PM. The market dictated that the HS and PM be used and the outcome was binary vectore. This combo is the source of most myth busting by using critical thinking.

    so the trader does the M of MADA and has annotated p and v panes in synchronsity up from the degree of granularity required to take the market's offer.

    Other tooling augments this foundational and building Block diffrentiation.

    The mind matches the MADA effort by the differentiation of the mind's inference.

    Two handy items of tooling are the yellow blocks for internal cases and the PRV to shadow the volume bars.

    This turns the trading into an anticipation process. in the philosphy of history this fits the symetric process. Danto at Columbia University emphaised this to a great extent. Alexander at Berkely emphasized how the links and nodes of systems could be divided to attain effetiveness and efficientcy. His method is named after him (Alexander's Method).

    So we tooled up PEP and its applications to keep things best divided and to relate the parts of the non stationarity windows by relative importance.

    All of this is a smoothing in terms of ono probabilistic information theory. Complexity has been removed andclarity is the result: no noise; no anomalites.

    Skills and knowledge come from expereince. Wompressing their acquisition is the goal. After hours and weekends is where the compression takes place. during the week, MADA is emphasized.

    Part IV Making Money is a consequence and not a driver of the process.

    In ES, 30 points of profits, is the doubling of capital coefficient for SCT. Any coefficient related to margin can be used. CW uses 1 to 2 percent of total capital and spreads risk by using, in parallel unrelated instruments (lowest corrolation of something). The market provides partial fills at some point (see prior prints posted to show this).

    I'll take up some tools that compliment the three basic panes as free time permits. Right now the process still does not have a 10 day set of annotations for k200. They do exist for a lot of posters here so we can move ahead since their posts show the outer envelopes that need to be considered.

    As the weekend ends, there is the need to havea debrieifing of the last day in the bag and part of that is the bottom of the debriefing which presents the carryover ofr the three fractals used for active skilled trading.
     
    #174     Apr 18, 2010
  5. thanks.

    You have the moves that are coming up in the order of events for each fractal.

    wth respect to the slow fractal we are completing the move from point 3 to the FTT.

    This takes three price moves on the trading fractal. The first move had its FTT and we have passed the RTL after the FTT and we are heading to point 2 of the ongoing trading fractal.

    By looking to the fast fractal we can examine how many fast fractal moves have been done and where we are in the current fast fractal move.

    We see we are in the first move which is long and dominant after the prior BO of the rtl of the last fast fractal.

    Collectively we are in a short dominant slow fractal move and long in a trading fractal dominant move and long in a fast fractal dominant move.

    You show the anticipated order of events on the chart after this carryover degapped open.

    The above status can be written in detail at the bottom of the debriefing sheet.

    By completing a debriefing sheet that notes the moves of the day in P and V for three fractals, you lead yourself right up to the carryover status.

    As was noted by a detractor, this, once done right after the close, puts a person is top physical and mental condition to get ready for what is next.

    Depending upon wher a person lives in the world he could trade two non overlapping markets in any 24 hour cycle. A business would just use overlapping shifts to trade capital three times during 24 hours.

    Here we are planning on the ES, k200 and the DAX.

    Trading monitoring builds upward and making money builds downward, all in terms of nested fractals.

    So since the thread has begun we have touched on all four parts. Degapping is part of Part III Carryover.

    In learning, the focus is on Part II the Trader. Reading and studying have been replaced by drills based upon needs and not just wants. Earnestness is the key for compressing the building of the mind.

    In ET you can peruse many paths of learning being followed by an broad assortment of traders who will become successful.

    After the open, the k200 will come to a place where the RTL of the slow fractal may have to be fanned to accomodat the last part of its pattern, Do that and continue along.
     
    #175     Apr 18, 2010
  6. here is a consolidated view of k200 5 minute chart spanning about 9 to 10 days. shared by someone earlier in thread, putting it up again for this evening.
     
    #176     Apr 18, 2010
  7. here is a real time k200 with the gap and chart re-annotated to match corrections made by Jack
     
    #177     Apr 18, 2010
  8. removed previous no-gap shifted chart that i had posted and updating with this one. it has the last two containers annotated that was left off on friday, and no other annotations
     
    #178     Apr 18, 2010
  9. I kept Jacks annotations with the exception, I brought back the last fanned uptrend I had annotated for Friday's chart. It builds nice with the gap removed and still assembles all the pieces for a down container.

    This is a layered chart showing Friday annotations and the gap removed- shifted into today.
    The shift bars are highlighted different color into today different color price bars. This is a temporary setup to show the impact of a gap removal.
    Next I will remove the shifted indicator and go to a normal chart.
     
    #179     Apr 18, 2010
  10. K200 11:10 pm EST


    Sweet !

    playing out nicely


    . . . kept the no gap bars for now for visual
     
    #180     Apr 18, 2010