Germany must be forced out of the Euro Monetary Union.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by piezoe, Jul 17, 2015.

  1. ...and thats precisely why stupidity and misinformation can freely mix on this site. Or how do you explain that you and Tsingtao hug like two sweaty gays ready for butt action. You, who shot down Tsingtao with your ridiculously flawed US state Keynesian example and Tsingtao whose one and only ability on this forum is to copy/paste news clippings (aside his occasional Miami tourism slip). And hours later you two conduct full throttle warfare. Almost like two adults with multiple personality disorder.

     
    #111     Jul 30, 2015
  2. Rosuva

    Rosuva

    Germany is a center and I assume they do not want to be such a center, but they have to.
    The economy of Germany is stable last time .
     
    #112     Jul 30, 2015
  3. Very similar to Japan. The last thing these two economies want is to be in the limelight. They have done well for decades operating and prospering in the background. Big difference is that Germany is part of a union that is taken hostage by a few bullies who demand without providing. Of course are those, who know how to play the Nazi and Hitler cards, very interested in putting Germany onto the podest in order to demand even more.

     
    #113     Jul 30, 2015
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Piezoe and I may disagree or agree on a variety of things (that's how people interact, by the way - they don't always agree/disagree on everything) but the one thing we don't do is bring out infantile insults on "butt sex" and the like. We try to be a bit more civil than that. And, of course, we're not children.

    You, on the other hand, have shown yourself on this forum to be someone who argues for arguing sake, with just about every single person you come into contact with. You never compromise, never negotiate. It's the Volly way or it's 100% wrong, and everyone is an idiot. I'll bet you're quite the miserable person in real life as well - the kind of person who wonders why he's always standing alone at parties, though that's not my concern. Your hell is of your own making:)

    Have a happy day, volly!
     
    #114     Jul 30, 2015
  5. yes, as said, an adult with multiple personality disorder. You are definitely perfectly fitting this category.

    Tsingtao, can you point to a post of yours that contains any original content and thought product? I generally do not make up stuff, and when I said you almost entirely concentrate your time on copying/pasting then that is what I mean and observe. Where in this whole Greek saga story do your own lines of thought fit in? I have not seen any. You just move from one thread to the next and shoot people down in between pasting articles that you either plagiarized (because you failed to quote the source) or simply copied off the web with an attached link to it. Well, we know you are a commie hater and you are leaning to the conservative side but other than that? Hmm, not much...

    We could extrapolate from the kind of articles you post and threads you participate in:

    a) Greece should leave the EMU
    b) Germany should leave the EMU
    c) And you are against Austerity because it does not work
    d) at the same time you are against fiscal support programs and money printing
    d) Miami is German's top holiday destination (chuckle)

    So, where do you stand? Looks like to me you are against everything and everyone yet have no idea or clue about constructive ideas and solutions.

     
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    #115     Jul 30, 2015
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Sure, just this morning.

    Then why is it when I ask for proof of your "not making stuff up" you mumble and run off?

    I shoot you down, but that's really all. With most others, we discuss points back and forth. You've shown that strategy to be a waste of time because, as I said, only Volly's way is right.

    But you're right, I do hate Communism. That's a bad thing in your world, is it?


    I've made quite clearly where I stand. You just don't agree with it and therefore, it's "irrelevant" or not worthy.

    You could always put me on ignore (again) and then take me off tomorrow (again) before vowing to leave the thread forever (again) and return the next day (again). (chuckle).
     
    #116     Jul 30, 2015
  7. luisHK

    luisHK

    An economic union including only the most elite european countries : Greece, Portugal, Italy, Spain and France ?

    Lol, not many people in France including in the political classes would agree. It sure doesn't sound like a very powerful union.
    I can see the germanophone italians banging their own head at the idea ! What did they do to deserve that ??
     
    #117     Jul 30, 2015
  8. Unlike other countries in Southern Europe, Spain is credited with bringing in a solid reform programme, especially in liberalising its labour market.
     
    #118     Jul 30, 2015
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    It could be the PIIGS EU. We could call it the P-U for short!
     
    #119     Jul 30, 2015
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Interesting read on Spain today:

    Police State "Ministry of Truth" Hits Spain; Man Fined for Calling Police "Slackers" on Facebook
    On July 1, the Spanish Government went to "Full Police State", with enactment of law forbidding dissent and unauthorized photos of law enforcement.

    Spain's officially a police state now. On July 1st, its much-protested "gag" law went into effect, instantly making criminals of those protesting the new law. Among the many new repressive stipulations is a €30,000-€600,000 fine for "unauthorized protests," which can be combined for maximum effect with a €600-€300,000 fine for "disrupting public events."

    This horrible set of statutes has arisen from Spain's position as a flashpoint for anti-austerity protests, the European precursor to the Occupy Wall Street movement. Fines, fines and more fines await anyone who refuses to treat authority with the respect it's forcibly requiring citizens to show it.

    The law also extends its anti-protest punishments to social media, where users can face similar fines for doing nothing more than encouraging or organizing a protest. Failing to present ID when commanded is another fine. And then there's this:

    Showing a "lack of respect" to those in uniform or failing to assist security forces in the prevention of public disturbances could result in an individual fine of between €600 and €30,000.

    A clause in the wide-ranging legislation that critics have dubbed the "gag law" provides for fines of up to 30,000 euros ($33,000) for "unauthorized use" of images of working police that could identify them, endanger their security or hinder them from doing their jobs. ​

    Man Fined for Calling Police "Slackers"


    We now have our fist test case of this inane law.

    The Independent reports Spanish man fined up to €600 under new gag laws for calling police 'slackers' in Facebook post.

    A young man in Spain has been fined for calling the police lazy in a Facebook post – becoming the first citizen to fall foul of a series of controversial new “gag” laws.

    The 27-year-old man, identified only as Eduardo D in national media reports, described the local police force as a “class of slackers” in a series of online posts which he described as humorous.

    According to the Spanish daily El Pais, Eduardo made three comments on Facebook criticising the money spent on police facilities in his town of Güímar, Tenerife.

    He also accused local authorities of misappropriating a public building, and in a third post suggested local police were so lazy they might as well have “a hammock and a swimming pool” at each station.

    Eduardo made the comments on 22 July, according to the Spanish edition of The Local, and that afternoon he received a visit from police accusing him of “making comments on social media that showed a lack of respect and consideration for Güímar’s local police”.

    He now faces a fine of between €100 and €600, and told El Pais he had appointed a lawyer to fight the “madness” of the penalisation process.

    One of the first uses of the nationwide so-called “gag laws”, Eduardo’s case comes amid a backdrop of a range of bizarre new laws across Spanish municipalities following the sweeping success of left-wing groups at elections two months ago.

    They included the introduction of a compulsory siesta in the town of Ador near Valencia, attempts to limit tourists only to the most popular destinations in Barcelona, and the setting-up of a so-called “Ministry of Truth” in Madrid. ​
     
    #120     Jul 30, 2015