Mate, I've spent years as a Christian so that's my focus, on the delusion. About muslims, they're another religion which I've talked about previously, nutters, no better, no worse than Christianity or Judaism.
@gwb-trading just a retard. Hopeless trying to talk sense into this idiot who spams nearly every thread on et.
Are you trying to claim The ZOG Press a well-known hate-site is the same as The Jerusalem Post a mainstream newspaper reporting the news. Get a grip. The Jerusalem Post – Bias and Credibility https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-jerusalem-post/
Well no takers in the quote dating earlier. "Zionist colonisation must either stop, or else proceed regardless of the native population. Which means that it can proceed and develop only under the protection of a power that is independent of the native population – behind an iron wall, which the native population cannot breach." — Ze'ev Jabotinsky, from his 1923 essay The Iron Wall (We and the Arabs). Jabotinsky was a key figure in Revisionist Zionism and argued for the establishment of a strong Jewish state with military backing, even in the face of Arab resistance. "It must be clear that there is no room in the country for both peoples... The only solution is a Land of Israel... without Arabs. There is no room here for compromises... There is no way but to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighboring countries, and to transfer all of them, save perhaps a few." — David Ben-Gurion, as quoted in Ben-Gurion: The Armed Prophet by Michael Bar-Zohar, based on Ben-Gurion's private letters and diary entries from the 1930s. Ben-Gurion, Israel's primary founding father and first Prime Minister, expressed these thoughts in the context of increasing Arab-Jewish tensions and debates over population transfer in the Yishuv period. These quotes are often used in debates over the ideological roots of Israeli policy of course. These aren't fringe voices. These are core architects of Zionism. Anyone claiming that peaceful coexistence was seriously pursued by the sharper-elbowed segments of the Ashkenazi leadership is either naïve or historically illiterate. There was never going to be a two-state solution in their calculus, not then, not now. Whether religious or secular, Zionists differed in tone but often aligned on ultimate outcomes. On my travels, I was told this plainly more than once: the long game was about land, not peace. The Palestinians are not saints, no one is claiming that. But they were never offered a good-faith chance. General prosperity was a high success chance for a solid peace, and the hardliners knew it and that it left Arabs on their land. That’s precisely why they made sure it never came to pass with sabotage decade after decade. There has never been a non-Ashkenazi PM in Israel. Many have changed their names to sound Hebrew is all, but that didn’t broaden the base of power. There is great diversity of opinion within Jewish society, but only a narrow band of those voices have ever really mattered there.
Israel is a racial experiment built on hate, and so are its supporters and right-wing newspapers. It needs to be dissolved in favor of a state in which all under its control have a vote.
I barely follow that thread. I’ve thought about asking him what’s with the whole atheist-still-stuck-on-it angle, but honestly? I’m not one to talk. Volunteering in hospice teaches you when to shut up and listen, not Hitchslap the dying. You just roll with different ideas of the meaning of whatever. But overall? From what I’ve seen, he’s more right than wrong, more not on target than wrong. I don’t always agree with his tone or the religious framing that sometimes slips in, that I recall but it's his way. The self-quoting to keep the topic alive seems to be out of genuine wanting to keep an importando topic ticking. Crucially, if he were proven wrong he would see that as progress to truth not a personal failure. But I'm not forensic on that thread. I just made a comment that that all Israeli PMs have been Ashkenazi, that's just fact and nobody pretends to say it's chance. The ZOG thing? It's probably flawed at a glance but like with Hollywood, Jews may not control everything but they have very visible clusters and numbers. That new Apple TV series The Studio is quite accurate...
I should have said yesterday that the pre-Holocaust ethnic cleansing proposals from key Zionist architects reflected what historians often call "maximalist" goals, long-term ideological visions, not necessarily short-term policies. Both men, of course, were pragmatic about what was achievable in their time. If they had to give to get, they would sign those agreements, knowing they would later find a way to get their concession back. Their ideas set the tone and shaped the institutions in ways that, over time, laid a structural foundation that made large-scale dispossession, and eventually, what we see now as unfolding genocide, not only possible but, in hawk eyes, inevitable in the long term*. This kind of patient, strategic maximalist vision isn’t unique to Zionism. Consider how American conservatives pursued the overturning of Roe v. Wade for nearly 50 years. When the end goal is seen as existential, decades, or centuries, of pragmatism are simply be steps in a longer game. *This aligns with scholarship like Ilan Pappé's The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine or Patrick Wolfe's theories of settler-colonialism, which posit that the elimination of the native population is a structural feature of such projects. Others, like Benny Morris, acknowledge the displacement but frame it as a consequence of war rather than premeditation. Both are true but for different parts of the Jewish people. With the opportunity finally presenting itself to rid themselves of the Palestinians, we now see support for genocide in even past moderates. Key Findings from Recent Surveys Support for Forced Expulsion: A March 2025 poll conducted by Penn State University among 1,005 Israeli Jews found that 82% supported the forced expulsion of Gaza residents. Notably, 47% agreed with the statement: *"When conquering an enemy city, should the IDF act like the Israelites led by Joshua when they conquered Jericho, that is, kill all its inhabitants?"* Endorsement of Aid Blockades: An early 2024 survey by the Israel Democracy Institute revealed that 68% of Israeli citizens supported preventing all international aid from entering Gaza, despite the severe humanitarian crisis unfolding there.