I've got it narrowed down to these two but I can't decide. Installing the demos and learning them will take some time so before doing so I thought I'd ask here if anyone has compared the two. That could help me pick one to start. If not I'll post my experience in evaluating the two. One thing I like about Trade Navigator is that they have video tutorials. I just spent an hour watching one on creating a custom indicator & strategy and backtesting it. It looked very intuitive and easy to use. Spydertrader uses it and I respect his judgement. Some disadvantages of Genesis: - I sent an email to ask about a trial version and didn't get a reply - Their website totally sucks. no details about their datafeeds or anything else. It's as if they don't want to sell it. - It seems to only work with their datafeed. That sucks. I have IQ and if I get Genesis feed then it wouldn't work with other software. Neoticker: - I haven't found a video tutorial on creating a strategy and backtesting it but Im going to ask in their user forums. - the USB key is a drag cause it means physically mailing a box and that means customs duty and hassle (potentially). on the positive side, neoticker seems to have very enthousiastic support from its users. I haven't seen one complaint. They also have a lot of tutorials on the net which look very good. It works with many data feeds including IQ. So far my pick is neoticker, I plan to install the trial and start learning it.