Genesis Myth: God Doing Good

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by RCG Trader, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. Just war theory (or Bellum iustum) is a doctrine of military ethics of Roman philosophical and Catholic origin,[1][2] studied by moral theologians, ethicists and international policy makers, which holds that a violent conflict ought to meet philosophical, religious or political criteria.

    The concept of justification for war under certain conditions goes back at least to Cicero.[3] However its importance is connected to Christian medieval theory beginning from Augustine of Hippo[4] and Thomas Aquinas.[5] The first work dedicated specifically to it was De bellis justis of Stanisław of Skarbimierz, who justified war of the Kingdom of Poland with Teutonic Knights. Francisco de Vitoria criticized the conquest of America by the Kingdom of Spain. With Alberico Gentili and Hugo Grotius just war theory was replaced by international law theory, codified as a set of rules, which today still encompass the points commonly debated, with some modifications.[6] The importance of the theory of just war faded with revival of classical republicanism beginning with works of Thomas Hobbes.

    The Just War theory is an authoritative Catholic Church teaching confirmed by the United States Catholic Bishops in their pastoral letter, The Challenge of Peace: God's Promise and Our Response, issued in 1983. More recently, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, in paragraph 2309, lists four strict conditions for "legitimate defense by military force":

    the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
    all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
    there must be serious prospects of success;
    the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power as well as the precision of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.
  2. Wallet


    There is no dilemma within the nature of God. The question, a symptom of the greatest lie, self-worship, implies that in some way God's actions and commands must meet the criteria and understanding of His creation. At the burning bush Moses asked God his name, God replied, which there is no literal translation in any tongue is best translated... I AM, THAT I AM..... tell them I AM has sent you.

    God, is and does as GOD is and does. His will and actions are perfect by decree, irregardless of our thoughts on the matter.

    However, the fate of old testament civilizations that fell to the Israelites is no different than today. God will pass judicial sentence on the world, as the world has already been judged and found guilty. All of us at one time or another has sinned in some way, some small, others large, but all have some degree of "bad deeds" in their life. Which contrasted to the nature of a completely perfect, again irregardless of our personal beliefs God, is in tolerable, as any sin by definition is not allowable in His presence. His Law, His Judgment is perfect by His own decree, there's nothing we can do about it.

    And just like those ancient civilizations, who had foreknowledge of the Israelite Nation's advance, who's God had delivered them from and defeated the Egyptian army... had their opportunity to acknowledg and accept the God of Israel.

    However, because of his love and compassion, He has given us a means of "pardon" for our debt of sin owed, that by placing our debt and sins upon his own Son.

    This is the "Love" Jesus commanded us to share, To love one another as God has loved us. To pass along the Love that has been given.

    God's Laws and Penalties will be done, but God's Grace allows us not only an escape, but actually inheritance, into what God has designed for His Son.
  3. stu


    Pure unadulterated, real honest to goodness

    bullshit .

    What's amazing is that a supposed adult, a grown person, can believe that much irrational contradictory horseshite in the 21 century.
  4. Huh...? What ancient civillizations were defeated by the Israelites...? The Egyptian army was defeated by the Hittites at the "Battle of Kadesh" in 1274 BC... Before that the Egyptians had problems with the "Hyksos"...

    Before that the ancient Mesopotamian Semitic civilizations (around 2300 BC) like the Akkadians and to some extent the Sumerians fell to the Gutians…

    Israelites didn't defeat anybody... Least of all the Egyptians in ancient times.

    Sorry but historical facts just don't support the biblical story.

    Oh... and as for sin owed I don't owe the Israelites or God anything. God is the God of the Israelites... If you're not Hebrew then he is not your God. You're wasting your time trying to get into heaven. Heaven and God is like "Fubu"... For Us By Us... If you're not Jewish then it isn't for you regardless of how you try to spin it. Either way I'm an atheist...