General Election 2020

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Mar 22, 2020.

  1. Have you ever heard the terms “Conciousness of guilt” and “Probable cause”. When you are informed of an pending investigation and subsequently destroy evidence, that can be a crime in of itself. How about when investigating authority allegedly privately informs the person under investigation of a pending investigation? Would not probable cause exist for conspiracy? Remember Trump’s attorney Cowen? How much lead time did he get?

    Justice was applied unevenly due to party affiliation of the investigators who were installed by Obama. Further, as shown with Strock and Paige, political bias existed among investigating FBI agents. Additionally, FBI leadership continued to maintain conflicts of interest long after being called out. And for what? Perjury traps, witness tampering, evidence tampering, and false FISA requests? The Swamp was obviously attempting to protect themselves, just like Bush did when he was under investigation.

    The big mistake Trump made was not immediately following through with his campaign promise of Draining the Swamp by instantly firing FBI leadership upon his inauguration for them turning a blind eye towards Clinton on Obama apparent corruption. Need a list again?

    Fun fact: Way back, William Barr was appointed as Bush’s AG. I believe Trump was given bad advice in appointing Barr. The apparent selling point of appointing Barr was that he could make Trump’s troubles with Congress go away. Congress did back off, but it was a bit too easy. Too easy, as in “Now we have our fox watching the henhouse” and “Serious investigations in Democrat corruption go nowhere now with Barr in”.

    Trump represents those who believe in the principles the United States was founded on and wish we return to those principles. It seems unlikely we will return to those principles under corrupt, 47 year career politician, Biden.

    Even to this day, in spite of four plus years of biased and negative press towards Trump, his favorability is higher than Democrat leaders Pelosi and Schumer.

    A vote for Trump is a vote for ourselves and a vote for Biden is a vote for politics as usual.
     
    #491     Nov 1, 2020
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

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    #492     Nov 1, 2020
  3. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Again, why are you asking me? Ask Trump's DOJ run by sycophants the same question, why didn't they charge Hillary for crimes even internet legal experts like you are sure of?

    You mean the same FBI that leaked a letter in the last week of 2016 election that tanked Hillary's chances? That FBI? FBI that kept the email story going for over a year? That FBI?

    Current FBI is full of Trump sycophants led by Barr, why didn't they clean it up and charge Hillary for her crimes?

    Why are you giving me campaign bullshit in the first place?

    A pathological liar born into wealth who ran scams like his fake university and fake foundation was going to clean the swamp. Yea, a real estate mogul who hides his taxes would have cleaned up corruption. Give me a break with your diatribes.

    So then fire Barr and install new guy, what's with the excuses?

    You mean a low IQ conspiracy theory birther who incessantly lies, hides his personal finances and is morbidly obese were the principles which US was founded on?


    Piss off with your Pence like garbage.
     
    #493     Nov 1, 2020
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  4. You accuse me of giving you “Campaign bullshit” while following up with unproven and worn out CNN and Democrat Party narratives? All the while not seriously addressing my valid points?

    As far as Barr is concerned, Trump has finally been putting some heat on him recently. Hopefully Trump gets reelected and cleans House, inside and out.

    You, certain other posters on this site, the media, Radical Leftists, and the Democrat Party are all about manipulation. One can see it in the frequent mischaracterizations, the refusal to ever accept information their position is wrong, the continuous effort to supress dissenting opinion, and the desceptive and or emotional names chosen in an attempt to further their inherently unpopular agenda. Names like “exGOPer”, “The Lincoln Project”, and “The Patriot Act” by now Democrat buddy George Bush.

    Manipulation that includes “Fact checking organizations” with undisclosed affiliations to Leftist media organizations. Manipulations such as false accusations towards Kavanaugh, False claims of a hate crime by Justin Smollett, and media lies towards the Covington kids.

    The political agenda of Democrats will not stand on its own in front of rational people. This is why Democrats rely heavily on emotionally based strategies such as Identity politics as shown through constant claims of racism, sexism, and homopobia while incessently attacking religion, the United States, and Trump. We see this when bad White cop kills an unarmed Black man. All cops are not bad. All Whites are not bad. Yet Democrats and the media attack these groups as if they were all responsible. Did burning down the Black owned business bring justice? Was attacking a White child wearing a “Make America Great” hat justified? Is stealing a TV during a mass looting event reparations? Never mind we never seem to consider the beginning of the chain of events that leads up to the wrongful death of a Black criminal was his criminal act(s) in the first place.

    Speaking of committing crimes, in whose long term political jurisdictions to the previously mention crimes and police killing of Blacks most frequently take place? Correctamundo, Democrat controlled inner cities, such as Baltimore, where Democrats political control have been ongoing for 150+ years. Tell us again what career politician Biden is going to do for us again? At least Trump has been responsive to minorities with his economic policies and specific programs that address various inequities.

    The evidence is overwhelming. The media is biased against the people and for career politicians while trying to maintain a guise they are helping people through recognition of their differences rather than actually solving anything and encouraging unity.

    Trump, on the other hand, is working to unify US citizens by creating economic opportunities that reduce incentive for crime while increasing incentive for people to participate in our system that has created economic opportunties and freedom that many foreigners still seek to this very day.

    Don’t base your voting decision on the Media’s “Orange man bad” narrative. Base it upon a reasoned approach that is congruent with your own self interest.
     
    #494     Nov 1, 2020
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  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    What kind of nonsense is this? What economic activities are you talking about?

    Joe Biden, Barack Obama and congressional democrats took $800 billion dollars and created the longest economic expansion in history. Trump has been riding those coat tails until he completely botched this pandemic.

    Talking about crime, crime was down under Obama and Biden and under Trump violent crime is up 15%.
     
    #495     Nov 1, 2020
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  6. There is a difference between the slow economic recovery, by historic standards, we saw under Obama and continued economic expansion in spite of capacity constraints reached during the Trump Administration. The difference was caused by policy differences between the Obama amd Trump Administrations, where businesses were incentivized to take on risk of expansion, capital good purchases, and hiring because of the more friendly business environment Trump created.

    Funny, har har. Did you “Forget” to include the Radical Leftist riots and ongoing statue teardowns that remained unrenounced by Democrats Party leadership until polls started moving significantly against them?
     
    #496     Nov 1, 2020
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Hillary not getting prosecuted isn't a narrative, it's a fact.

    Any day now, what didn't happen for four years will finally happen after the election.


    What information was wrong? Why should I accept information from the biggest pathological liar known to man? Tell me where Obama's real birth certificate is, Trump said he sent investigators to Hawaii who were finding things you will not believe, am I supposed to take lectures on authenticity by such morons?

    Says the Birther supporter, where are those Hawaii investigators that Trump said were finding amazing things?

    Your guy's message is that blacks will invade suburbs if Donald isn't re-elected, that is not heavily emotionally based strategies?

    More than 15 indictments for people who have worked in the Trump admin, Trump himself named in an indictment, if your head of party is so corrupt and criminal, why are you blaming Democrats for random street crime?

    Yea, because Trump encourages unity and solves issues? Where is his healthcare plan?

    Highest deficit, highest unemployment is 'economic opportunity'? Tell me about the budget busting deficit he had pre-covid.

    A moron who constantly lies, has no interest in policy and is incompetent is in no one's self interest. This fat shithead can only run a TV show, government is beyond his low intellect.
     
    #497     Nov 1, 2020
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  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    #498     Nov 1, 2020
  9. Here are some facts to consider: Trump is a multiple property owning wealthy person who some still dispute if he is a billionaire or not, has multiple successful children from multiple wifes who many consider unusally attractive, and has achieved the highest political position in the world’s most leading country.

    Sounds like success to me on many levels, even if you may not accept or understand it yourself.

    What is even more amazing is Trump has made lots of mistakes, has character flaws, a hostile media, backstabbing members of his own party and he is still on top and likely to remain so.

    Can you understand why some would suggest Trump has a skill or two in certain areas, even if you can’t identify them yourself?

    Even if Trump does not actually have any skills, it is his stated belief system alone that makes him credible and powerful. Trump believes in America and when it comes to that particular belief, many Americans believe him.

    Trump has fulfilled several of his campaign promises against strong opposition, increasing his credibility among his supporters.

    On the other side of the coin are Radical Leftists who are seemingly pulling strings in the Democrat Party, who oppose most all that Trump does. If Trump believes in America and Democrat and media supported flag burning Radical Leftists oppose all that Trump does, would not a reasonable logical extension be Radical Leftists hate America? Why should we support Biden, their leader, if they really feel this way?

    This all comes back to the idea that a vote for Trump is a vote for ourselves. Democrats and Independents included, at least when it comes to economic opportunities with the freedom to determine one’s own course it often provides.
     
    #499     Nov 1, 2020
  10. I say, lets have the elections and make our own determination on who should lead us, not polls.
     
    #500     Nov 1, 2020