geithner crying about the downgrade, says US treasuries are still safe now

Discussion in 'Economics' started by S2007S, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. S2007S


    Does anyone believe what geithner is saying, he mentions that the credit rating agency lacks basic U.S. fiscal budget math and also goes on to say that Treasury securities are just as safe now as they were before, RIGHT!!!!!
    Hahaha, does anyone actually think geithner knows what he is talking about. Now he is all upset that the credit rating has been lowered, but still believes China is still going to buy US debt.
    This is going to be really interesting to see what tricks geithner and BUBBLE ben bernanke have left to prop up the markets and the economy.

    Geithner: S&P showed terrible judgment
    Geithner attacks S&P for terrible judgment in downgrading government credit rating

    Martin Crutsinger, AP Economics Writer, On Sunday August 7, 2011, 10:44 pm

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- The credit rating agency Standard & Poor's showed "terrible judgment" in lowering the U.S. government's credit rating, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Sunday.

    "They've handled themselves very poorly. And they've shown a stunning lack of knowledge about the basic U.S. fiscal budget math," Geithner said in his first public comments about the credit rating decision.

    Interviewed on CNBC, Geither said that U.S. Treasury securities were just as safe now as they were before S&P announced its downgrade. He predicted that China and investors would remain strong purchasers of U.S. government debt.

    Republicans have blamed President Barack Obama for the first-ever downgrade of the government's credit rating.

    But Geithner said Congress owns the credit rating because the Constitution gives Congress the power to tax and spend.

    Late Friday, S&P announced it was lowering its rating for U.S. debt one notch from AAA to AA+.

    The other two major credit rating agencies, Moody's Investor service and Fitch Ratings, have not lowered their AAA ratings, although they have warned of a possible downgrade if more is not done to deal with soaring federal deficits.

    The rating agencies were sharply criticized after the 2008 financial crisis for continuing to give top ratings securities backed by subprime mortgages. When the mortgages went bad, investors lost billions of dollars and the resulting financial crisis sent the country into a deeper recession.

    Geithner alluded to those problems in his interview Sunday, saying about the credit agencies: "Look at the quality of judgments they've made in the past."

    The administration has also accused S&P of a $2 trillion error in its estimate of the size of the deficits over the next decade because the agency made a fundamental error in interpreting budget projections of the Congressional Budget Office.

    S&P officials say they changed the part of the draft press release where Treasury said it discovered the mistake but that this did not alter their basic assessment.

    S&P said the political "brinksmanship" on display in the prolonged battle over the raising the nation's borrowing limit underscored a deep divide between the political parties that raised concerns over the ability of Congress to come up with a credible plan to deal with the long-term deficit problem.

    S&P had been warning for months of a possible downgrade and said that a credible plan would need to achieve $4 trillion in deficit reduction. The plan that Congress passed last week seeks to achieve between $2.1 trillion and $2.4 trillion in deficit cuts.

    Geithner refused to forecast whether the credit downgrade would result in higher interest rates for the government, businesses and consumers.

    But he said, "I think everyone can be confident around the world, that Treasuries are the ... most liquid, the strongest place to put your money at a time like this."

    He said he had "absolutely no concern" that China, the largest foreign holder of U.S. government debt, would stop buying that debt.

    "They've been very strong and I'm sure they'll be strong investors in the U.S. going forward as will investors around the world," he said.

    A critical editorial by China's state-run news agency on Saturday said that the United States must "cure its addiction to debts."
  2. I'm hoping for a credit event that sees corporates yields balloon up like they did in '08-09. I doubt that happens.

    And since Zero Hedge doesn't have it up yet, I put the odds of David Beers ending up like Vince Foster at about 2-1. If Rubert Murdoch was running the Treasury, Beers would've been gone on Saturday. I mean really, the whistleblower died the next day!?!? What efficiency!
  3. Lucrum


    Only foolish dumb ass die hard democraps that refuse to embrace reality.
  4. Any word on what he is doing with his own money right now? Selling, holding, or buying?

    I find it odd that he would complain that they made an error, and then immediately try to pin the downgrade on the congress. If there is no error then wouldn't a better method be to simply tell the press what that error was to make them look bad?
  5. If Geithner has any cojones, he would get his revenge on Standard & Poors by driving S&P futures up 50 points tomorrow.
    How much would it take? Peanuts.

    Joe Public cares more about the stock market than the bond market, and he would be using Standard & Poors own instrument against them.
  6. rc8222


    Did Geithner do this much whining when he was caught cheating on his taxes???? :D
  7. Timothy Geithner to remain as Treasury Secretary at Barack Obama's request

    =panic at Administration