GDP Grows at 3.2% Another Left Wing Hoax Crumbles

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Apr 27, 2019.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    To pay for what?
     
    #51     Apr 28, 2019
  2. Trump also had the most negative media coverage ever. Yes, Trump did call out media for “fake news”. However, this was justified when Trump made this statement and even more now, given Radical Leftists efforts to suppress free speech of Conservatives in the news, social media as shown by Facebook and others, Suppression of Conservative views by the use of airhorns and other tactics on College campuses, Media support for false accusers against Conservatives, Antifa intimidation tactics, and even interference against a gathering of Catholic high school students as was shown by Nathan Phillips.

    If the media did not have a agenda and allowed free speech and coverage for all, history would look at Obama in a different light. Obama probably would not have been reelected. At least Democrats lost the Senate and the House later in the Obama Administration. The fact the media employs such tactics implies they know their ideas are unsound and they need to manipulative public opinion for a chance to gain political power.

    Look at the Socialist rise to power in the US. How else would that happen if it were not for positive media coverage?

    What entity does the US Liberal Media really represent in the United States?
     
    #52     Apr 28, 2019
  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Not that it matters, but if you are referring to TARP, that was, I believe, a net money maker for the Government. You can check out the TARP balance sheet on the Treasury website and see whether I am right or wrong. Let us know what you find.
     
    #53     Apr 28, 2019
  4. The US budget provides a line by line accounting for most Government receipts and expenditures. I refer you to that source for an answer to your question.
     
    #54     Apr 28, 2019
  5. The accounting on this has been questioned and there was confirmed graft on Solyndra. Even without these questions, this does not justify about $8 trillion of debt added. A partial subsidy to employers over two or three years would have saved trillions. But Tony Stark has a good point: Where did most of the money go? It is worth an investigation into it. I do know more than a liittle went overseas, a billion went towards a disfunctional Government website for Obamacare, a lot went to Democratic supporting businesses.
     
    #55     Apr 28, 2019
  6. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    What Obama polices cost 8 trillion?
     
    #56     Apr 28, 2019
  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    The rate of improvement in the GDP declined once Trump was elected compared to what it was during the Obama administration. But this is not due to Trump. It is simply an artifact of where the economy stood when Obama took over versus where it stood when Trump took over. Obama, not Trump, gets credit for recovery from the deepest recession since the great depression. The Financial collapse occurred under a Republican administration and Republican Fed Chair appointees. It can be laid to Greenspan's insouciance in the face of dire warnings, from 2006 on, of a collapse in underwriting standards. Though there were many factors that led to the collapse, Greenspan, the Chief regulator of U.S.Banking, must bear the greatest responsibility. Trump has been very much a mixed bag, doing more harm than good.
     
    #57     Apr 28, 2019
  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    In who's opinion. And what alternative would have been better?
     
    #58     Apr 28, 2019
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    An investigation is not needed.Most of Obamas 8 trillion of debt went to 2 unpaid for wars,The Bush tax cuts that caused a 600 billion a year loss of tax revenue when the ressession hit,Bushs unpaid for medicare expansion,Bushs economy and Bushs 700 billion a year miltary budget,400 billion a year higher than Clinton's military budget.You could just simplify it by saying Obamas debt is mostly a result of the 1.2 trillion dollar yearly deficit bush left.

    Obamas stimulus was less than a trillion and Obamacare cut the deficit by raising taxes and cutting medicare spending.
     
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    #59     Apr 28, 2019
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  10. So there we have it. Tony Stark lasted a little longer than usual, but mostly by regurgitating his same old arguments over and over again while not responding to valid counterpoints.

    Perhaps if Obama and the Democrats were subjected to an audit on Solyndra and other public fund transfers to Democratic supporting businesses, both foreign, such as a German toy company, and Domestic, we would more fully understand the extent of fiscal mismanagement in the Obama Administration.
     
    #60     Apr 28, 2019