If you don't want to debate based on data, there's nothing left but logic. Your position just isn't logical. Your response also begs the question of the reason for marriage. What the majority do is immaterial. My question had to do with those who elect to marry and not have children, as well as those who do not bear children after marriage. Yes, childless couples can adopt, but so can gay couples. There is no difference other than that which springs from your own prejudices, which are also the basis for your "reasons".
db, you wanna argue? Fine, bring it on. I'm getting sick and tired of you pretending that your operating from some higher logical plane than me. Leave me out of it. Don't just assert the argument is flawed, show it. And show my why YOur version is any better. So I'm waiting, please show me how my position is anything but logical. Come on, put up or shut up. The reasons for differences between gay adoption and straight adoption aren't ONLY mine. Good God, where do you get this crap. They are mine and shared by millions upon millions of others. Just because you don't like them doesn't invalidate their reasoning. All your crying and sooking isn't going to change a damn thing about the plain, old fashioned FACT -- a concept you might want avail yourself of -- that marriage, as it has been, for thousands of years understood, and IS understood has been the union of man and woman. You want a special kind of union so gays can -- well, I don't know, what the hell do they really need any kind of officially recognized union for, but anyway -- if you want for them, okay, go invent a new one. "Marriage" is taken. Get used to it. EDIT And please, what freakin data? I'm waiting for YOURS. You are the one that needs to show homosexuality is INHERENT, and that when it pops up later in life, after periods of heterosexual behavior that this was an unavoidable development, that it didn't occur because of external stimuli, but because of someone inherent genetic characteristic of the person.
Db, go @#%#% yourself bro. I didn't bring it up, it was in response to crap like what Gekko brought up, in the very next post after I specifically called the thread gay marriages. If you've got nothing better than flame bait to offer up, I suggest you re-read the first sentence of this reply.
True, true. I do not have endless hours to kill here. I read GG's comments on the 1st page and thought they were right on. Just offering my .02 You should worry less about what other people do and more about yourself. You'll enjoy life more. Peace, -b
I'm not flaming. I haven't belittled you or ridiculed you in any way. You said early on that you had data to support your position. If you don't, that's fine. Without data, you can argue on the basis of logic. And so far, your position is based not on logic but on your own feelings, attitudes, beliefs, prejudices, not on reason. Whether those feelings and so on are shared by no one else or by millions is not the point. The argument that "it's always been that way" just doesn't hold and never has. The question of whether homosexuality is genetic or learned is irrelevant to your point that gays should not be allowed to marry. Unless, of course, it is permissible for gays to marry if homosexuality is genetic, but not permissible if it is chosen. Or vice-versa.