Gasoline Prices and Speculators: They Think You Are Stupid

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bugscoe, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. Ricter

    Ricter

    Sorry mate, I did not read your post, my first reply was actually to the OP. I have heard your ideas, in another thread, for returning work to our own middle class, and while I think it's a bit off target, it might be workable with modification. Certainly worthwhile adding it to our kit. But there is nothing wrong with Obama's initiative to double our exports, is there? They are in fact growing faster, and that is undeniably a good thing, though it might be short-lived--everyone wants to do the same.

    Would you like me to post graphs regarding the so-called explosion of the public sector under Obama? Or should I just say, "it aint so"? : )
     
    #21     Apr 25, 2011
  2. Ricter

    Ricter

    Lol, more of the same. Ok, my turn:

    I get Gabfly. But you...

    Enlist this guy's aid:

    <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Slugs_1896.png">

    thereby doubling your IQ. You'll write better copy, and he'll no doubt let you keep the byline!
     
    #22     Apr 25, 2011
  3. Right, the old "IQ retort".

    Who is the guy who did the hack cut and paste job on this thread, instead of actually analyzing the original post?

    You hide behind alot of one liners and other troll gimmicks, sort of a smug, smart ass way of life for you.

    I just feel the need to call out schmucks who have a habit of derailing threads for no particular reason.
     
    #23     Apr 25, 2011
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    Hey, "not even witty" is pretty weak, too.
     
    #24     Apr 25, 2011
  5. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    Grow a brain.
     
    #25     Apr 25, 2011
  6. Ricter

    Ricter

    I'd get ahead of you, that's not fair.
     
    #26     Apr 25, 2011
  7. Hello

    Hello

    1. Core inflation is not flat not flat over the past three years. Check any chart you want but the fact remains that 2 of the 3 things that are most meaningful to consumers (food, and energy) are skyrocketing. And it has alot to do with the dollar, and keynesian economics. The dollar is20% off the highs by anyones standards. That in and of istself is a 20% tax on every single thing we have to buy. The only thing the fed has been unable to inflate is housing prices. Wait until the banks really open up the spigot. You really think when the banks start lending (at normal levels) again we arent going to go through incredible inflation on housing and everything else?

    2. I never implied government wages "sky rocketed" recently. However Government wages are currently drastically outpacing private sector wages, and people in the government are still getting raises that outpace inflation in the current environment. Where private sector workers are just fighting to try to find a job.

    The mere fact that government spending remained the exact same(according to your chart) while millions of people in the private sector lost their job is proof enough for me that government spending is continuing to outpace tax revenue, and private sector wages. I have many different sources which say that Obama has drastically imcreased government spending since 2009, so i doubt this chart.

    I summed up exactly what is happening here in my initial post. Government sector wages are competing with , or beating inflation, while private sector wages remain totally flat.

    Now this wouldnt necessarily be a problem..... If Bush, Obama, Greenspan, and Bernanke werent working feverishlly to inflate asset/commodity prices and destroy the dollar. The private sector is getting completely screwed on this one, their wages are not even coming close to competing with inflation.


    I think i addressed it all, but i dont know.




     
    #27     Apr 25, 2011
  8. Hello

    Hello

    Hate to say it Ricter, but 377OHMS is right, Krugman is a jackass, he is as bad as Robert Reich.

    I took economics, and there isnt an economics teacher in the world who teaches you that the path to prosperity is big government. (and this is in university, where left wing bias is a norm) Krugman and Reich are rigid idealogues, with no basis in economic reality.
     
    #28     Apr 25, 2011
  9. Ricter

    Ricter

    I don't see anything by Krugman that advocates big government merely for the sake of big government. I think his attitude, while highly partisan, still fits entirely within, "government is a necessary evil. Some emphasize necessary, and others emphasize evil."

    Edit: at any rate, like I said, you don't have to take his "word for it", he's pulling data from a lot of different sources.
     
    #29     Apr 25, 2011
  10. Hello

    Hello

    One can find data to support any claim. The most important thing that pertains to economics is the chart below. The entire ball of wax is based on something that is incredibly simple.

    Krugman and other liberal "economists" feverishly try to fudge economic numbers/reality to make their point. The government constantly tries to defy the laws of gravity, economics really is this simple my friend.

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    #30     Apr 25, 2011