Gamma vs Volatility

Discussion in 'Options' started by kv1289, Sep 6, 2019.

  1. destriero

    destriero

    I wrote like 400 words to express it and it's too deep into the weeds. All decay increases with distance. All convexity increases with distance (static vol). Most of this stuff is a rounding error compared to the first-order exposures (and gamma); i.e., Dd/Dt (ddecay) is useless as you near expiration. All (3rd-ord) are of limited utility in vanilla equity vol.
     
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    #21     Sep 7, 2019
  2. kv1289

    kv1289

    #22     Sep 7, 2019
  3. destriero

    destriero

    "When implied volatility goes higher..."

    I was referring to curvature (Dg/Ds). The text is accurate w.r.t. IV. The increase in vola moved the needle. Vol rises -> wings trade from $5 to $6 -> is gamma higher or lower (lower)?
     
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    #23     Sep 7, 2019
  4. destriero

    destriero


    All decay excluding theta.
     
    #24     Sep 7, 2019
  5. Baozi

    Baozi

    empirically it makes sense.. vol props up all the premiums, and the the P/L curve will look on average higher but flatter..
     
    #25     Sep 7, 2019
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  6. kj5159

    kj5159

    Just think about it in a simple example, if you have underlying at $50 and your $52 call has a premium of $5, gamma will be lower (and vol higher) because there is less change in the option premium if the underlying goes up to $55 than, all else equal, if the premium paid were originally $2 rather than $5.

    It's a complicated mathematical way to arrive at that conclusion is all.
     
    #26     Sep 7, 2019
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  7. kv1289

    kv1289

    What I'm gathering so far is:

    1. Option with 0 extrinsic will have no optionality, so gamma will also be 0.
    2. If vol increases and the option gains extrinsic the gamma will increase.
    3. If vol continues to increase the profile will flatten and gamma will decrease.

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    Is this correct?
     
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    #27     Sep 7, 2019
  8. destriero

    destriero

    DgammaDvol trades inverse to vega as gamma is to theta; ATM max sensitivity. Long vega = short dg/dv.
     
    #28     Sep 7, 2019
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  9. Isn't there speed in ATM/ITM strikes as well? Isn't zomma largest in the front-month ATM?
     
    #29     Sep 10, 2019
  10. And it makes sense, color is highest at that max sensitivity ATM. I'm wondering if all these relationships because the greeks is because of the symmetry of gamma.
     
    #30     Sep 10, 2019