I just reread a post you wrote about 3 years ago in response to a couple of questions I wrote in my previous life as Brass in the predecessor thread: http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index...-gaining-muscle-and-losing-fat.224077/page-13 It's interesting to note that you initially went from a ~low volume 3x/week full body routine to a higher volume split, then to a different split and finally back to a fully body routine, however this time 4 times a week. Have you noticed any cumulative fatigue yet from the frequency? I ask because while some people seem to believe that they must increase volume over time to improve, others think that the more advanced you get, the more you can make inroads because of better intensity and, therefore, the lower the volume should be to ensure sufficient recovery. And so, I'm curious. As an aside, I note that Richard Winett, a lifelong fitness enthusiast who has conducted and reported on a number of meta-analyses on the subject of working out, had this to say after he reached a certain point: "The irony is that through all my training incarnations, I had about the same lean body mass. The only thing required to capitalize on my best assets was to just watch my diet a bit more." He is in his 60s if I'm not mistaken, and he's been at it since he was a teenager. I think he made this observation when he was in his mid-40s. So I imagine he has tried just about everything over the years. I suppose the upshot is that, as far as the workout is concerned, as long as it is of sufficient intensity and is not likely to result in overtraining (i.e., allowing for sufficient recovery), it's pretty much six of one and a half dozen of the other.