Gain Capital and market orders

Discussion in 'Forex Brokers' started by bluelou, Nov 3, 2010.

  1. bluelou

    bluelou

    @drm7,
    Thx for those 2 names. I'll check them out. I'm not too concerned about charts. I'd probably use sthg 3rd party and I don't really use charts in real-time.
     
    #21     Nov 4, 2010
  2. bstay

    bstay

    #22     Nov 20, 2010
  3. bluelou

    bluelou

    @bstay,
    Thanks for the definitions. "Requote" sounds like a bit of a misnomer in this case b/c Gain didn't re- do anything. They just rejected the market order. It was up to me to figure out what happened and take action by manually re-bidding for a new market order. I guess that's what a requote is, but I'm actually the one taking the action by re-bidding. The dealer is just sitting back and rejecting my market orders.
     
    #23     Nov 20, 2010
  4. bstay

    bstay

    Your market orders were rejected as you were placing them right at FOMC minutes release. In your queries with InteractiveBrokers ( or other brokers for that matter), you should ask them about this same exact scenario, rather than a market order in general. I would be surprised if any broker will fill your order at 14:17 ......

    In other words, rejecting a Market Order is not normal. But rejecting a Market Order right in the middle of spiking quotes at FOMC minutes release ....... seems to vindicate their action ("Pair Not Dealable").

     
    #24     Nov 20, 2010
  5. heech

    heech

    Can someone tell me the difference between trading fx and the cme futures? What's the motivation for choosing one over the other?
     
    #25     Nov 20, 2010
  6. bstay

    bstay

    http://www.traderslog.com/forex-currency-futures/
    there are more if you google .....
     
    #26     Nov 20, 2010
  7. bluelou

    bluelou

    I could have used a better example. "Pair Not Dealable" has happened to me 3 times in the past few weeks. Only 1 instance was during a major data release. So, I think the general issue is the same.
     
    #27     Nov 20, 2010
  8. a major motivation is capital, minimum futures account is $2,000 whereas fx is $1
    can't find the other threads, a couple have been specific to futures/fx differences
    http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172655&perpage=6
     
    #28     Nov 20, 2010
  9. bluelou

    bluelou

    FWIW, I did get a better, however laughable, explanation from Gain when another market order was rejected this week. Apparently, when Gain receives a market order they consider it to be a sort of limit order. That is, if the price has moved in the 1/2 second or so since you submitted the order they reject the market order. Now, here's the funny part. If you specify in advance how much slippage you're willing to accept then they will try to fill your order with slippage. Hmmm...I wonder what my aggregate slippage would be in year? 1/4th of my P&L? 1/2? Oh, why not just take it all.

    Also, with NinjaTrader there is no way to include a slippage parameter so until I drop Gain I'm going to see more rejected market orders.
     
    #29     Nov 20, 2010
  10. #30     Nov 20, 2010