Futures Traders- What percentage of your net worth are you trading with?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Zr1Trader, Jul 12, 2011.

  1. Show me a formula that tells me how often I should call Dad? When I was busy and he was busy, not often. Now I call him every day just to make sure he's still alive.

    I don't know what market you are trading, but I think it's different than it was 10 years ago.

    The rules of Monopoly haven't changed. So applying game theory to a game should work. But how do you apply it to something that is changing?

    The whole thing stinks of the search for the Holy Grail to me.

    Just tell me what to do so I don't have to become engaged.

    Show me how to reduce all the choices in my life to a mathmatical formula so I don't have to decide what to do.

    Doesn't anybody ever trade the market anymore?
     
    #51     Jul 26, 2011
  2. I figured, we go through this drought scare every year and it always rains. Why should this year be any different? The historical data was on my side.
     
    #52     Jul 26, 2011


  3. try to take a bit more then you give away.
     
    #53     Jul 26, 2011
  4. JSHINV

    JSHINV

    I agree. I don't mind constructive suggestions or even constructive critcism. But, I don't want to fight, for the sake of fighting. Fighting doesn't work when someone can say whatever they want because they can hide behind cyberspace. I made up my mind a couple weeks back to just put someone on ignore when they want to fight for no reason. I do very well in a face to face verbal confrontation as it was required at times in my job before I retired. But firing away in cyberspace no one wins including those who just read the remarks. No one wins.
     
    #54     Jul 26, 2011
  5. okey okey i`m sorry.i apologize im a jerk sometimes:D

    wont happen again mr sb4y and mr JSHINV and mr oldtime
     
    #55     Jul 26, 2011
  6. Well, you never did answer the question. How much of your net worth are you trading?

    My guess it's 100% not counting your car and your girlfriend and your opera glasses..
     
    #56     Jul 26, 2011
  7. you are on the money OT

    besides the opera glass,it only goes in exchange for the dust:D
     
    #57     Jul 26, 2011
  8. ES = SPY

    if you can trade SPY succesfully, you can trade the ES succesfully even more so, as transaction costs are less with the ES for the amount of leverage.
     
    #58     Jul 26, 2011
  9. Ok, well I see there is a bit of a wiener comparing contest that got started here but I guess that happens on ET.

    Anyways. I've been contemplating moving a bigger percentage of money in futures. Considering I had about a 38% draw down with my long term funds from 06 to 08. All is good now, haven't touched it and its been making new equity peaks for a while now. Just don't want to have to sit through another draw down like that.

    My long term funds are in broad stock market index, emerging markets, gold, silver, bonds, all kinds of stuff. Diversification obviously didn't help my draw down percentage that much when EVERYTHING was tanking in 08. The draw downs in futures account haven't even been close to what I experienced in my supposed "safe long term funds" .

    I'm thinking of trying 60% long term, 40% in futures. There is a pretty substantial opportunity cost at this point if I don't make some changes in allocation. I'll keep it balanced at 60%-40% .
     
    #59     Jul 26, 2011
  10. We just didn't want to see you get blown up. A lot of traders have 100% in futures.

    Furthermore, if you're long stocks, that pretty much eliminates any short stock futures. On paper it may seem like you're hedging but in reality you're just canceling out. Take a look at the research on how important just a few days in calendar year contribute to your stock returns.

    I can't give you a number, but a rule of thumb I try to use is 25% or less of futures account commited in margin. But a scalper would probably be at 90%.
     
    #60     Jul 27, 2011