Futures account size for trading

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by ceaser, May 19, 2022.

  1. DevBru

    DevBru

    I consider trading a 5 minute chart as day trading, i am not talking about hourly charts.

    A lot of 5 minute NQ bars these days have a range of 50 points or more. So if i have a strategy that buys or sells the reversal after fake breakouts for example and my stop is the previous high or low i have no choice but to go for 50 or 50+ points in stop size.
     
    #31     May 23, 2022
  2. wmwmw

    wmwmw

    It is not a problem.If your previous stop is 25 points,and now it is 50 points, reduce your trade size to half,everything will be the same.
     
    #32     May 23, 2022
  3. DevBru

    DevBru

    Hard to do when you are trading just 1 micro on a $500 account ;).
     
    #33     May 23, 2022
  4. Gasparov

    Gasparov

    Are you getting regularly 300+ points with that kind of a stop? I enter with the right 1 min candle usually regardless of whether it's the 5 or 15 min trend, so I get the move at the exact 1 minute it is reversing. Which means my stop is typically no more than 20-30 points. The 50 point candles tend to come in the middle of these moves rather than at the start.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2022
    #34     May 23, 2022
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  5. %%
    I agree
    \partly. BUT since he is a new derivatives trader/inVestor\ prepare for more than 10 losses.
    SO if he made an error + may have in MAY\LOL\ sounds like No MACnub understated it.:D:D
    SO like SCHW warns on derivatives ''NOT suitable for all investors''[Or traders]
    FOR sure cut back when losing\ unless one has real low % hit rate+ most turtles never had a HI hit rate...........................................................................................
     
    #35     May 23, 2022
  6. DevBru

    DevBru

    Wow, such an amazing precision, you must be a billionaire by now.
     
    #36     May 23, 2022
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  7. Gasparov

    Gasparov

    correct! because everyone who trades with precision becomes a billionaire overnight
     
    #37     May 23, 2022
  8. virtusa

    virtusa

    I enter all my trades with a 5 points stop ES. I almost never have problems to be stopped out short after entering. All depends on where/when you enter.
     
    #38     May 23, 2022
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  9. FTDK

    FTDK

    There is no point in arguing with some people, better let it go.
     
    #39     May 23, 2022
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  10. Bad_Badness

    Bad_Badness

    I would not recommend the INDEX futures for a Mini version with anything less than 30K. 50K preferred, 100K more realistic for anyone serious. The reason is either you are profitable long term or not. If you are, you scale. If you are not, you will lose enough, to be cut out of trading prematurely.

    Otherwise stay on paper.
     
    #40     May 24, 2022
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