Futures account size for trading

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by ceaser, May 19, 2022.

  1. CannonTrading_Ilan

    CannonTrading_Ilan Sponsor

    My personal input as a broker who have assisted and seen MANY accounts.....
    Micro day trading $2500
    minis/crude/gold day trading 15k-25k
    Swing trading $50k
    Selling premium 25k-50k
    Must fit ones risk capital and tolerance...
     
    #11     May 20, 2022
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  2. %5
    THAT looks right;
    like any trade/investment what ever you are willing to lose-- not that 's that the main goal.
    BUT since there is no such thing as business with no expenses[losses], that number helps.........
     
    #12     May 20, 2022
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  3. DevBru

    DevBru

    500 for micro's? Not going to last long in these volatile times.

    Starting underfunded is possible one of the major reasons many fail.
     
    #13     May 20, 2022
  4. Gasparov

    Gasparov

    I assume the trader knows what he is doing. If so, 500 is plenty for 1 micro, though beyond 2 is kind of pushing it.
     
    #14     May 20, 2022
  5. DevBru

    DevBru

    In ES, maybe, in NQ? Not a chance.

    In volatile markets like these 10-20 point stops don't work in NQ. When a 50 point stop gets triggered 20% of the account is gone.
     
    #15     May 21, 2022
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  6. Gasparov

    Gasparov

    well in my experience, if you need a 50 point stop that often, you are probably not taking proper entries
     
    #16     May 21, 2022
  7. Back 2003 ,emini sp500 range 20 point range per day was amazing now i see 120 point drop like a butter ,do calculation if you lose 10 point in single contract, that is sa easy, to get stop down ,in that kind of volatility.To made that money back during tha day you have to have minimum $25 000 .THEN you feel comfortable .To trading 1-2 contract .But if my time come I will increse to 10 lot if i see perfect move but dont hold more then 5-8 point because to much risk.
    For 10 lot I fell comfortable about $120-150k.
    Be conservative get $10k per lot you never get burn if you made some mistake,is always other trade next day.
     
    #17     May 21, 2022
  8. Overnight

    Overnight

    That is a load of horseshit. You KNOW how much the daily ranges have expanded over the past few years, so to claim 50-point stops means a bad entry is also horseshit. C'mon, man!
     
    #18     May 21, 2022
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  9. Gasparov

    Gasparov

    LOL alright then, well I aim for precision so I never want an entry that will go against me that far. that's ludicrous, especially trading a full e-mini. but to each their own
     
    #19     May 21, 2022
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    These days, use a 5 point stop in the ES on any given day, with a 5 point target for the 1:1 R:R, and you will go NOWHERE. You KNOW this.

    So what is the proper stop? There IS NONE! It is too wacky! Every entry is wrong with ranges like this! It is luck now!
     
    #20     May 21, 2022
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