Fundamental value of Bitcoin

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by JackRab, Aug 29, 2017.

  1. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    The cultism is strong in this one... :)

    Death to Bitcoin, long live Bitcoin Cash!!! We will stop at any GOOD argument...
     
    #61     Aug 31, 2017
  2. lovethetrade

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    #62     Aug 31, 2017
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  3. johnarb

    johnarb

    The scariest thing for me as cryptocurrency holder is a US govt action. I have experience with the Pokerstars/online poker crap.
     
    #63     Aug 31, 2017
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  4. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I am actually surprised they haven't been acting on it. (so far only 1 Senator tried to introduce something) I was expecting something drastic at least 2 years ago. Maybe the Obama administration was soft. Another reason could be that we haven't had a really high profile kidnapping/black mailing or terrorist using it. Once that happens...
     
    #64     Aug 31, 2017
  5. Daal

    Daal

    what can they do? to outlaw the ownership of numbers and letters?
     
    #65     Aug 31, 2017
  6. johnarb

    johnarb

    I can answer to this. With Pokerstars, they did not go after the users. Yea, we can play all we want. Cashing out? Can't. No bank would deal with it. At first, Pokerstars was sending me physical checks in the mail. Until one of their executives got arrested in New York on a layover.

    They will stop the big US-based companies from supporting the network. It's going to be ugly with no Bitpay (payment processor), Bittrex, Poloniex and the biggest one is Coinbase/GDAX.
     
    #66     Aug 31, 2017
  7. Daal

    Daal

    This is just going to create the opportunity for non-US exchanges and sites to take over the market
     
    #67     Aug 31, 2017
  8. Gotcha

    Gotcha

    I find the government is really bad at being proactive. Usually they only do clean-up, and very poorly. Look at the subprime mess in 2007. One can even argue the way they solved the problem didn't really solve anything cause 10 years later, most people are not better off, and the bulk of the money made the rich even richer at the expense of everyone else.

    So I don't expect the government to step in early to fix a problem before its a bigger problem, but I do expect them to one day do something in drastic fashion.
     
    #68     Aug 31, 2017
  9. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    The lack of imagination never stops to amaze me.

    Let's assume you are US based. What are you going to spend your bitcoins on? Order everything from China? Because after the US the EU will soon follow and China isn't crazy about unregulated capital flow either...

    So for a "currency of the future" thingy being banned in the 3 most important markets is kind of big deal... But enjoy your alpaca socks...

    By the way how are you going to cash out from a non-US based broker if your bank doesn't accept money transfer from them? Gonna take a trip to Mexico to the BTC ATM?
     
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    #69     Aug 31, 2017
  10. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    With virtual gold it took them 11 years, so bitcoin has 2-3 years left:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold#Criminal_prosecution

    Here is the best part:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Bullion

    "After the arrest of Fayed, the US Attorney unsealed an indictment of e-Bullion and Goldfinger Coin & Bullion for failure to have a money transmitter license under the USA PATRIOT Act. Although the charges against the corporations were eventually dropped, the US Attorney's Office seized all of the assets of the Goldfinger companies, including the bullion backing e-Bullion.com from the Perth Mint and the Fayed's ranch in California. e-Bullion account holders have not been compensated by the U.S. Government for the confiscation of the bullion backing their accounts."

    That is 24 million bucks taken away by the government...
     
    #70     Aug 31, 2017
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