Fully Automated Trading Journal - $50k per month goal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by frostengine, Jan 3, 2021.

  1. When I say I am allocating 250k of the account towards the strategy - its about margin tie up. The 20% return would be against that margin, however, that is only possible due to the fact that I have other positions in this account offsetting the required margin due to using portfolio margin. This is a highly levered strategy- 250k would not be sufficient to trade it in an account by itself. Without the far out the money puts held in this account, I would be at a very high risk of ruin.
     
    #11     Jan 3, 2021
  2. gkishot

    gkishot

    It's still 20% monthly return, whether you leverage 250k or not.
     
    #12     Jan 3, 2021
  3. fan27

    fan27

    He is trading this strategy within the context of a 735k account, so a 50k return would be 6.8%. But that is not really accurate, because you would have to factor the cost of the puts mentioned earlier.
     
    #13     Jan 3, 2021
  4. Thanks for the feedback.

    Why would you not consider going pure delta01 then? You indicated you have a large enough account. Your total transaction costs would most likely be significantly lower than doing it through options...

     
    #14     Jan 3, 2021
  5. sef88

    sef88

    Wow 6.8% monthly returns at what volatility.

    With sharpe of 1, 81.6% volatility
    With sharpe of 2, 40.8% volatility
    With sharpe of 3, 27.2% volatility
    With sharpe of 4, 20.4% volatility

    Strategy is tenable with sharpe of 3 and 4. Else, it would be a crazy volatile strategy.
     
    #15     Jan 3, 2021
  6. Good luck frosty - looking forward to see your progress learnings and profits
     
    #16     Jan 3, 2021
  7. Ambitous! Following this with great interest.

    Roughly how much per year does the OTM hedge cost you (as a % of capital allocated to this strategy?)

    GAT
     
    #17     Jan 4, 2021
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  8. fan27

    fan27

    @frostengine, could you give an overview of how you structure your OTM hedge?
     
    #18     Jan 4, 2021
  9. The OTM hedge are generally bought 90 days out. At any given time, I like to have 3 to 5x the number of put contracts for each 100 shares. For example, lets say in my account I have 1000 shares of SPY and I am short 4 puts. That means I need protection for 1400 shares. So I will own around 40 to 70 far OTM puts. This allows me to sleep very well at night knowing if I woke up to a black swan - my account value generally increases very nicely irrespective of what all my strategies are currently holding.

    I end up paying about 10% of my account value each year to maintain this hedge. I am not counting this hedge against this strategy - other strategies pay for the hedge over the course of the year (outside the scope of this strategy). That is just how this overall account is protected - and a by product means this strategy is also protected.
     
    #19     Jan 4, 2021
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  10. As fate would have it - today is a very bearish day so far, resulting in several trades being stopped out. I am not overly concerned with those trades though, I am spending most of my time analyzing the execution engine - making sure thing are behaving as expected. So far things look good.
     
    #20     Jan 4, 2021