Fully automated futures trading

Discussion in 'Journals' started by globalarbtrader, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. Elder

    Elder

    I have read the book and its an interesting and compellingly simple approach, but I am sceptical for the simple reason that the last 40 years also correspond to a massive explosion of balance sheets of central banks worldwide in the support primarily of sovereign bond markets. With this kind of explicit support, its no wonder everyone rushes to sovereign bonds in times of stockmarket crashes. Its one thing when the yield buffer is in double digits, quite another when it is 2 or 3%. If this binary switch between the assets breaks going forward, the lack of diversification could come back to haunt imho. Admittedly I am off-topic, as I am expressing a discretionary view, so apologies for that.
     
    #1641     Jun 16, 2018
  2. truetype

    truetype

    All pre-crash. Since 2009 it's been net negative. Life lesson: ignore "XX year" backtests that haven't worked for a decade.
     
    #1642     Jun 16, 2018
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  3. sle

    sle

    An interesting question is - how much of these strategies stopped working because there are too many people doing them? I.e. if most of the CTAs vanished tomorrow, would these phenomena re-appear?
     
    #1643     Jun 16, 2018
  4. truetype

    truetype

    The scenario in which "CTAs vanished" would be a period of sharp losses, which would indeed clear out the underbrush and allow for green shoots.
     
    #1644     Jun 16, 2018
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  5. traider

    traider

    Hi GAT,

    in the video you mentioned that Rentech tried to do trend following but they didn't do well. Could you elaborate more on that?
     
    #1645     Jun 17, 2018
  6. Google RIFF the acronym not the word

    GAT
     
    #1646     Jun 17, 2018
  7. traider

    traider

    Hi GAT,

    can we modify pysystemtrade to test stocks by treating a stock as a futures contract with infinite expiration and no carry? We can use div/split adjusted data for that. However I'm not sure if I have to completely change the sharpe ratio calculations because cost of capital for holding a long /short stock is somewhat different from futures.
     
    #1647     Jun 17, 2018
  8. By my calculations, the outperformance over the past 8 years has been about 5% per year on average.
     
    #1648     Jun 17, 2018
  9. truetype

    truetype

    Taking the spreadsheet you sent at face value, aggregate performance 2009- 17 is -1.8% and it's unclear whether that even includes transaction costs.
     
    #1649     Jun 17, 2018
  10. Is Gary's performance hypothetical?
     
    #1650     Jun 19, 2018