Fully automated futures trading

Discussion in 'Journals' started by globalarbtrader, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. There's no reason why in theory you shouldn't use the same methods you'd use for a backtest (bootstrapping, bayesian...), but of course your return history is much shorter (unless you've been live trading for donkeys years with an unchanged system), and hence you're extremely unlikely to be able to distinguish between different strategies (unless you are a high frequency trader with a high single digit or low double digit Sharpe). This means in practice you're likely to recover your prior.

    GAT
     
    #1411     Jan 29, 2018
  2. isotope1

    isotope1

    Well I'm trying to build an HFT market making algo based on the paper here https://arxiv.org/pdf/1105.3115.pdf (using the results at the bottom of page 13). The issue here is that it's tough to paramaterise the equation. I can do a reinforcement type learning and get it to learn from trading, however I'm concerned that it will overfit.
     
    #1412     Jan 29, 2018
  3. Ah well that is a different problem entirely!

    GAT
     
    #1413     Jan 29, 2018
  4. truetype

    truetype

    #1414     Jan 29, 2018
  5. Maybe this'll help, one of Roberts talks (worth googling for any others too...)

     
    #1415     Jan 29, 2018
  6. isotope1

    isotope1

    Don't jinx it! :) I've already given almost half of it back in the last couple of days (7.2% DD from HWM @ 25% vol).
     
    #1416     Jan 30, 2018
  7. djames

    djames

    I feel your pain! :)

    BTW @isotope1 you mentioned a while back that you scale out of positions when loosing - by this do you mean you do this in addition to the natural scaling out of positions which would occur in a decreasing forecast strength? If so do you do this programmatically and if so under what rules?
     
    #1417     Jan 30, 2018
  8. isotope1

    isotope1

    I do the two normal things:
    • Forecasts do their thing, and obviously reduce a position if the forecast is weakening.
    • If I loose money, I recalculate the portfolio for the new, reduced portfolio (which basically means getting rid of some contracts). (Kelly).
    These two things are the basic stuff; I don't do anything fancy. Moreover, anything fancy I tried reduced drawdown but at the cost of return.

    The only exception to this is that I keep a forecast of -10 on VIX & VSTOXX.
     
    #1418     Jan 30, 2018
  9. truetype

    truetype

    Today / yesterday aren't large enough moves to really damage the trendies, unless they had a thumb on the scale by sprinkling in some "risk premia" plays (perma-selling Vix because they naïvely believe the academic literature and/or believe backtests that don't include market crashes).
     
    #1419     Jan 30, 2018
  10. I'm down about 3.1% from HWM FWIW.

    GAT
     
    #1420     Jan 30, 2018