Fully automated futures trading

Discussion in 'Journals' started by globalarbtrader, Feb 11, 2015.

  1. Fixed and closed

    GAT
     
    #1361     Jan 15, 2018
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  2. sle

    sle

    For your purposes, you can just build a n-branch tree starting with the lowest correlation pair or something like it. However, i really think that before this exercise, you want to think of “what” correlation you are using. For long term strategies that’s a more important factor.
     
    #1362     Jan 15, 2018
  3. traider

    traider

    I agree with you totally. Just to clarify, are you referring to window size for correlation or using some other form of metric ? I am aware that there one can write other constraints still based on correlation to build different clusters.

    There is also a difference in using prices or returns and I find that returns seem to give me clusters that make more sense using domain knowledge.

    Actually this exercise is to run pysystemtrade with a reduced set of instruments to test various trading rules because the default set takes a long time with estimation on using shrinkage but I wanted a good representative set that wasn't picked randomly. However, building meaningful clusters is always useful in trading and has other applications.
     
    #1363     Jan 15, 2018
  4. joederp

    joederp

    Hi Rob, is there a YAML file or other where you store the initial & maint/overnight margins for futures instruments, or do you just check them before entering/adjusting a position? I've looked through several YAML files and Python scripts, but don't see anything.
     
    #1364     Jan 17, 2018
  5. I don't store or use margin data

    GAT
     
    #1365     Jan 17, 2018
  6. itb

    itb

    #1366     Jan 18, 2018
  7. Someone just asked me exactly the same question on m y blog (Was it you? If so please don't do that!) Here's exactly the same answer:

    Basically trading is unsuitable for providing an income, as the returns you earn (essentially any profits over the HWM after tax) are lumpy and may be absent for years. As I rely on my investments for the bulk of my income it makes sense to put more money into dividend earning stocks and coupon paying bonds.

    GAT
     
    #1367     Jan 18, 2018
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  8. itb

    itb

    It was me, apologies, I didn`t receive any confirmation on the blog post, so I wasn`t sure the post worked.

    Anyways, back the to question. Assume you have 200K to invest, systematic trading has higher SR, and you decide to put 100% of risk in systematic trading, targeting 30% ann. stdev. Let`s also assume the cash required for margin is 60% of your portfolio, which stays with the broker, and thus you have 80K in your bank account earmarked for trading. Is there something wrong or impractical with withdrawing certain amount every month from that 80K left in the bank account as a source of income?
     
    #1368     Jan 18, 2018
  9. isotope1

    isotope1

    Is that a mathematical thing or a psychological thing? Would a regular coupon from your trading capital hamper you in the long term?
     
    #1369     Jan 18, 2018
  10. Elder

    Elder

    The way I read this is by imagining a drawdown of 50% with 3 years to get back to the HWM. I wouldn't want to compound my capital down by taking a coupon in this scenario.
     
    #1370     Jan 18, 2018