Full Cryptocurrency Transactions Ban Planned in Russia

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by mlawson71, Dec 23, 2021.

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    Wanted to point out that Banks will be getting in on this game (most likely with less yield, maybe 3%-5%) but with the comfortability of speaking to a person face to face.

    There is also competition from CEXs themselves - FTX, KuCoin, etc. (Coinbase got nixed by SEC)

    I've been trying out KuCoin's lending for the past couple of months. On USDT I have averaged 10.28%

    On a separate note I am pretty sure I can build a trading system off of lending rate fluctuations.

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    #71     Jan 11, 2022
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    Awesome, just want to continue the convo on Pancakeswap. I made profits on it, got in and out, but I don't do charts I go by price action so on its way down, luckily started getting out around $19 and completely out by $17

    The 64% APY is actually much lower than when I first got in many months ago

    It used to be over 140% APY to cake stakers but that was during a time when the $cake tokens were extremely inflationary and they were paying yield farmers (LP's) in high APY $cake tokens in order to attract new assets listings

    They have since cut down the APY's for everyone, yield farmers and cake stakers

    The power has shifted and Pancakeswap platform now collects millions of $ worth of cake tokens (which they burn) when new coin projects want to get listed on Pancakeswap, in the same way Binance and other CEXes charge for a listing fee

    The result is that $cake tokens are no longer inflationary. To date, Pancakeswap has burnt 339M $cake tokens which is more than the circulating $cake tokens supply of 257M

    Why is the price of $cake tokens so low? Crypto bear market, other coins are also undervalued, CEL, NEXO, VGX, and many others

    I would be loading up on $cake tokens at these prices and the high APY if I was not afraid of existential risk on the Binance Smart Chain

    Don't want to fud, but Binance dot com has become very strict my account is now limited to withdrawal as I cannot KYC if you know what I mean

    and the thing that scared me off that it might trickle to Binance Smart Chain is when they shut down the Binance-operated bridge a month or 2 ago

    It was a bridge that blocked US IP addresses, but I really liked it a lot as it supported on-chain btc bridging with very reasonable fees. Great bridge btc back and forth to BSC and to the Bitcoin network

    It also supported Tezos and PolkaDOT and many chains that are not EVM. Possible because it was a centralized Binance bridge

    So the long about "fud" is that if Binance is being very strict on their exchange and now looking at their operations on the BSC and taking out regulatory risks, is it not possible they could shut down the BNB/BSC in the future if the DOJ/SEC tells them to?

    Strictly my opinion, please take it with a bucket of salt. I have stayed away from BSC projects as a personal choice

    As far as trading, 2021 year was lackluster for me (Jan-Dec). Won some, lost some, but nothing like CEL or NEXO returns when they were purchased for much lower in 2020

    As I mentioned on another thread, I missed the trees from the forest, big macro trends, L1 smart contracts multi-chain reality and crypto gaming trends and metaverse plays and of course the NFT's

    Hopefully this year we'll catch a good trend early
     
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    #72     Jan 11, 2022
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    Banks are more or less competing with other centralized companies and not so much with AAVE, so they are more comparable to BlockFi, Celsius, Ledn, Nexo or Gemini Earn

    They earn their yields from rehypothecation/prime brokerage/securities lending to institutional traders like Susquehanna

    If they do not properly manage their counterparty risks, they could lose a lot of funds and pass on the losses to the crypto assets depositors. I only know of Cred that was in this business and went bankrupt

    CEXes are bypassing the lending to the Institutional Traders by lending to the traders on the platform

    Bottom line it looks like there's enough yields for everyone due to the high demand for use in trading markets and high velocity of money in the cryptos ecosystem

    I think the best comparison for AAVE to a centralized business is Nexo that has the biggest business of retail lending through over-collaterlized loans

    All other ones are partial collateral but even when we had a fast meltdown where the cryptos marketcap lost over $1 Trillion, none of them went bankrupt and Celsius said they did not have any margin liquidations as all of their Institutional borrowers were quick to send additional collateral and some even sent ahead of their notices (margin calls)
     
    #73     Jan 11, 2022
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    I'm sure all these banks who start onbording people into crypto will use outside custodial services. The yields will also come from non-traditional bank models via the crypto markets. These funds will just be part of a pool of funds sloshing around that can be lent and create yield.

    There are micro loan services for the 3rd world that will be moving on chain and there will be yield there for those who lend.

    As you said, more than enough to go around.
     
    #74     Jan 12, 2022
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    And then there is this...

    https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...banks-to-mint-usdf-stablecoins-301458911.html
     
    #75     Jan 13, 2022
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    #76     Jan 13, 2022
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    #77     Jan 13, 2022
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  8. No, I mean actual retail that enters the crypto market & is active with it, via the 3 different routes: 1)Defi, 2)NFTs 3)Memecoins. I gather anecdotal evidence on this daily. None of them have any interest in BTC. The numbers show the same. BTC wallet growth is stagnant. In fact, ETH Metamask growth is almost stagnant now (only NFT guys give it any real significance anymore).
    The space is changing faster than the Boomer coin guys realize.

    Alts aren't looked at as vs BTC anymore, 2017 is gone. They are now looked at as vs ETH, cause Uniswap.

    I have not met one newly onboarded Coinbase user that gives one f**k about BTC. Not one. They view it as too expensive & too late for them. They can barely be convinced to focus their capital investment into ETH. They are too busy being attracted by the lower priced alts.

    That's just the reality, the numbers show it. And no amount of BTC maxis spewing their outdated BTC narrative can change that.
     
    #78     Jan 20, 2022
  9. That's because, at the core, "Number Go UP" is the only narrative that survived and mattered.
    At least with ETH, and now competing L1s, there is a bunch of stuff to do with various network activity. Although that has now changed, thanks to obvious ETH problems that Vitalyk and greedy miners refused to tackle when needed.
     
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    #79     Jan 20, 2022
  10. What I've really learned, and mostly over the last couple of months, is to understand the narratives but not to buy into them.

    While there is a small minority of people & devs in the crypto space that are truly in it for the tech, the driving force is "Number Go Up". That's the main value proposition and narratives are spun around it, because people cannot handle the truth.
     
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