From failure to success in trading (my story)

padutrader · Sep 14, 2021

Tarzan said:
Too many guys talk about their winners and so called small losses.
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i showed off my 4 handicap too.

if you do well you do get bragging rights

padutrader · Sep 14, 2021

Raheel Shaikh said:
One day all this hard work will pay out.
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only hard work does not pay out. i know it from experience.

you have to work correctly and then it will eventually pay out after much
failure.

good guidance is priceless

but like all priceless things, it is very very rare and, when you do get it, impossible to recognise, among all the rubbish [advice] you are usually buried under.

you have to concentrate on the process. take ALL the buy and sell signals and if you are lucky you will make a small loss after costs like brokerage.

this is where frustration builds for a trader.

then you will find out, which good and perfect buy/sell signals fail , and which bad signals succeed.
after that you will learn which good signals to ignore and then which bad signals to take.

you are then a good trader.

later you will learn which good and perfect signals to fade

you will then understand that reading or identifying the market conditions is critical in knowing which buy / sell signals ,good or bad, to take and which to ignore. market conditions meaning: is it trending or ranging or in between.

and you are NOW a master

this is a process and it takes a huge loss of time and money. you can avoid the money loss by trading sim or demo..

the loss in time and effort no one known has avoided

padutrader · Sep 14, 2021

raik07 said:
Guys, if you got this far reading,
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actually i did not have to read all of it

every single trader has the same story.

padutrader · Sep 14, 2021

raik07 said:
Hi guys how's it going!
Here I am again.
Many have already remembered me for my post the other day The blackest day in my career as a trader. If you have not read it, I recommend that you go and read it so that you understand even more the concept of this achievement that I have accomplished.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/the-blackest-day-in-my-career-as-a-trader.360931/

When I had that tragic and brutal experience, I honestly did not want to know about trading anymore, but despite the fact that trading and the markets had given me the most terrifying and strongest lesson of all my life, I did not want to get away from that world, because Deep down I knew that I could fulfill my dream, deep down I knew that I could be a profitable trader and turn my passion into a business.

After that tragic event, I took a few long months away from the world of trading but in the end, attracted by the passion I feel for this world, I came back again.

But if I wanted to be successful, I knew that I couldn't go back to making the mistakes I made in the past. If he wanted to be successful, he knew he would have to do it in a different way and with a more practical approach.

Most retail traders lose all their money by chasing absurdly high and elusive returns, they lose by not having the right balance between capital and risk management.
Having little capital leads you to take much more risks than you should because you want to do more with little, and that's where I saw the problem.
If he wanted to earn $ 3,000 a month with a capital of $ 10,000 then he had to earn a 30% monthly profitability. A very high profitability that is unsustainable over time. Whereas if you had a $ 100,000 account you would only have to look for 3% per month to generate those $ 3,000 per month.
That totally changed my focus and helped me see how I had to run this business in order to make money from it.

To top it off, through a friend, I got to know a trader who made a living from this business simply looking for a 15% annual return. The key to this trader is that he managed third-party money through a broker and took a 3 + 30, 3% fixed commission for administration and 30% of the profits generated, apart from that that trader had an agreement with him. broker which the broker gave him 35% of its commissions generated by its volume of operations. That trader earned about 150,000 dollars a year net and I don't even want to tell you about the capital he managed.
That led me back to only one path. If he wanted to make a living from this business and be successful, he had to manage money from third parties. (And you already know how terrified I was of that after losing my parents' money).

But hey here we go with the most interesting of this story:
He started working on my trading strategies developing it from scratch. I learned that to survive in the markets your entire portfolio should not be managed by a single strategy. You should see several strategies totally uncorrelated to each other and in different time frames. I understood that and at once I realized that it would be impossible for me to carry out this manually, because I could not operate 4 strategies at the same time efficiently and because on top of that I did not have much time since I had a normal job in a bank from 8 to 8. 17 o'clock.
So look to my best ally so far "Technology" for support.
In mid-2017 I looked for 2 trusted programmers, one of them was from Argentina and the other from Barcelona, began a 24/7 job to develop those algorithms and optimize it in the best possible way, the strategies were well founded statistically so it was just create well optimized algorithms. It took me and my team 3 and a half months to create those algorithms and do hundreds of back tests to optimize them and once we finished then the toughest test remained, put them on the market in real time with real money to see how they were going.

In October 2017, the real account algorithms began and the systems could not see a better start. In the last quarter of 2017, systematized strategies achieved an impressive 25.18%

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Seeing what my automated systems could do in the first trimester of life, expectations were high for the coming year.
And the truth is that I do not disappoint. I had my best year in my career achieving a stratospheric 139.56% in 2018

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Seeing these results, expectations were just as high for 2019 but the reality was different, I faced my toughest year so far, in that year there were a couple of conditions that were not favorable to my systems and in that year I could only get a 5.77% profitability. It was not a negative year, but it was not a very competitive profitability either, anyway, we closed 2019 in green numbers.

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The year 2019, although we closed it positive, gave us some quite interesting challenges, I discovered that I had to increase the adaptability of my algorithms when facing the market because the market is constantly changing and I could go from a year 2018 where the conditions were perfect for my system to a totally different market like the year 2019 where my algorithms suffered enough to close the year in positives.
So we worked at that point to make more all-terrain algorithms and in 2020 the changes gave results, achieving a competitive 26.4%

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After seeing how well the year 2020 was and seeing how my systematized strategies took hold, a very interesting question came to the table, Was I ready for third-party capital management? It was obvious that the situation was not the same as 2016 where he practically did not know what he was doing but fear and terror were still there.

A friend saw the results and said olle are you doing really well because we don't go out and look for great clients? I said hey man, I don't know! I still do not feel ready and in February 2021 boom my friend arrives with an investor who without much word said hey boy I want to open a brokerage account with $ 270,000 for you to manage.

I don't have to tell you that I was totally paralyzed with surprise. But hey, opportunities like that don't come up every day, so I told him, sir, let's get started.

2021 is being a spectacular year, we have an impressive 35% until September 2021 and our forecast indicates that we will finish above 40% by the end of the year.

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My strategies are made up of a scalping trading on 5-minute charts, 2 swing trading strategies on 4-hour charts and a key level breakout strategy on one-day charts.

Currently I continue to develop, and back testing other strategies to continue expanding my portfolio.

They have made proposals to me to open a hedge fund, but I feel that I still lack experience. I have plans to think about that possibility in 2022 or beyond, but for now I am focused on continuing to develop profitable strategies to have a portfolio of more diversified systems, after all there is my success, in having several profitable strategies uncorrelated with each other .

Guys, if you got this far reading, I want to tell you never to give up and fight for your dreams, that is, in an intelligent and practical way. View attachment 267888
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i have a good friend in hyderabad who has made a algo and it is given 10 times return in one year........ totally verified........you can check it for yourself and subscribe to it on mql4 Trading Signals and Social Trading in MetaTrader 5 – Forex Signals (mql5.com)

pm me and i will give the link

David's faith · Sep 15, 2021

padutrader said:
i have a good friend in hyderabad who has made a algo and it is given 10 times return in one year........ totally verified........you can check it for yourself and subscribe to it on mql4 Trading Signals and Social Trading in MetaTrader 5 – Forex Signals (mql5.com)

pm me and i will give the link
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Max Drawdown? Max Depot-Load?

padutrader · Sep 15, 2021

David's faith said:
Max Drawdown? Max Depot-Load?
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everything recorded including how many time he went to bath room.

have you never seen a mql4 signal or copying service?

just log in to the site and go to 'signals' tab

padutrader · Sep 15, 2021

David's faith said:
Max Drawdown? Max Depot-Load?
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do you think anybody can give you return of 10 times in one year with a drawdown of .05 % ?

then you must also believe in Santa Claus.

And it will be a very Merry Christmas

vanzandt · Sep 15, 2021

padutrader said:
4 handicap
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bs.

padutrader · Sep 15, 2021

vanzandt said:
bs.
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arsehole

vanzandt · Sep 15, 2021

padutrader said:
arsehole
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It's not my intention to OT this thread, but you don't have a 4 handicap, or you'd be in the top 7% of all golfers in the world. Some club pro's don't sport a 4 handicap.