From Abraham Lincoln, Famous Democrat

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gnome, Nov 1, 2008.

  1. Thought you'd enjoy this info.

    You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
    You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
    You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
    You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
    You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's
    initiative and independence.
    You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could
    and should do for themselves.

    Abraham Lincoln


    Interesting information:

    City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level

    1. Detroit , MI 32.5%

    2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%

    3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%

    4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%

    5. Miami , FL 26.9%

    6. St. Louis , MO 26.8%

    7. El Paso , TX 26.4%

    8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%

    9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%

    10. Newark , NJ 24.2%

    U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007

    What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty
    rate all have in common?

    Detroit , MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican
    mayor since 1961;

    Buffalo , NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;

    Cincinnati , OH (3rd)...since 1984;

    Cleveland , OH (4th)...since 1989;

    Miami , FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;

    St. Louis , MO (6th)....since 1949;

    El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;

    Milwaukee , WI (8th)...since 1908;

    Philadelphia , PA (9th)...since 1952;

    Newark , NJ (10th)...since 1907.

    Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same
    thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

    It is the disadvantaged who habitually elect Democrats --- yet they are
    still disadvantaged...
  2. Only thing is, Abraham Lincoln never said that.

    Further, Abraham Lincoln was not a Democrat, but a Whig when first elected.

    Additionally mayors can't control poverty levels.

    Worse yet, the poorest states are usually Republican states.

    Plus poverty has consistently gone down under the Democrats, and up under the Republicans:

  3. More proof the two party left/right paradigm has been a failure for all. democrats creating destructive socialist style codependency, against the left lead under-educated inner city public schooled.....while the republicans also enabled a corprotocracy to empower large multinationals against the small business owner.

    Both parties have FAILED the constitutional fundamentals of our country and have enacted contempt for the patriotic american citizenry. Shocking levels of government spending and targeted manipulative tax policies have set our once great country up for the PLANNED great fall. The acceleration of our countries demise is ahead and the democrats and republicans hands will BOTH be on the wheel. Our current leaders in both parties are all unrighteous puppets lead by desires other than service to a once blessed constitutional ideal.

    Voting for any of the current two party candidates will lead down a road to a town called......NOWHERE!
  4. hughb


    Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, the first elected as president.

    I think, but am not sure, that the Whigs were absorbed into the Republican party around that time.
  5. Whig (1832-1854), Republican (1854-1864), National Union (1864-1865)

    According to (gag) Wikipedia.
  7. According to Einstein them one must not vote republican this time. The republican leaders have failed us repeatedly and it would be insane to think they will now do otherwise. We've seen the consequences of a low IQ born again fundamentalist in office and it would be insane to chance another one in Palin being our president. I have to give Bush credit though, at least he somewhat knows what he's talking about, he's just wrong a lot of the time. But in Palin she doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground. Scary isn't it, she is dumber and less informed and less educated. Palin the republican's choice... idiots. There is no reasonable argument to putting Palin in charge. Your only choice is voting for Obama and hoping your party runs a decent ticket in 4 years, we are all screwed if Palin ever sits as president.
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    Dave, I have to say that mayors most certainly can prevent poverty in their cities.

    Together with city councils they have power over taxes, building codes and a host of other sources to bring jobs into their cities.

    Most times a poverty rate is over 20% JOBS are the number one issue.
  9. Saw a discussion with David Brooks where he said he believed the GOP is at a fork in the road of sorts. One group favors the Palin/fundamentalist types and the other favors the intellectual types a la Wm F Buckley (they are called "arugula eaters" by the fundamentalists).

    I used to enjoy Buckley's "Firing Line". I can't say I enjoy hearing much of the fundamentalist stuff, but then I haven't really listened to a whole lot of it I suppose.
    #10     Nov 2, 2008