Whew! Is "lundy" is one sick phuck... or what! I pity you and those around you lundy.. you're a real hotshot ain't you. No offense but you could benefit from some serious institutionalization bro. :eek: :eek: And what's most disturbing is you are putting others down... and yet you have shown yourself to be much sicker than you allege some of them might or could be! But you don't f**king see that! And I KNEW you never finished beyond H.S. and never served your country... I said that in my prior post! It was OBVIOUS! Read it over again. It's my trader's instinct! And you brother are a losing trade.... for America! Contribute zilch but put others down who contribute to the dialogue and offer cogent opinions albeit different than yours'... and call THEM faggots! Give me a break! .... man do the world a favor... get a 'hooked on phonics' course Monday morning... and get a Rx for some lithium, stat!! Ice
This thread is digressing from its subject in a major way. Please either return to it or start another thread for other topics. Thank you.
Babak, in general, you and I seem to agree on most issues such as what is and is not appropriate. And when we disagree on issues, which we also do, usually on political topics, we agree to disagree, and we seem to respect each other's opposing viewpoints. And learn from each other. But here, I think we disagree a bit too much. Since it was you that started this thread, "French Gratitude", what did you expect the topics discussed to be? Does it surprise you that the thread has gone straight to the real heart of the matter? That France, perhaps the very best example in the western world to exemplify what tolerance and intolerance can, as a national trait (if there really is such a thing) bring to the world stage? Are these topics not on the subject of this tread? Certainly, you could not substitute "French Gratitude" with that of too many other nations. "Canadian Gratitude"? "Dutch?", "Austrian"? Even "German"? I think France is quite unique in their arrogance, their lack of "gratitude" and their "intolerance", as any of us who have gone to France as a visitor has experienced. So this thread turning into a running (and seemingly off topic) diatribe on intolerance does not, to me, seem so far off topic (if at all). I know I mentioned this a long time ago in another thread. When I was first in France, I almost got into an altercation with a waiter in Cannes because he did not like the way I spoke French. Did not like my American accent. Yet in the other countries I visited, the people went out of their was to be pleasant and accommodating. And there was nothing less than a total language barrier. Yet somehow with a little effort, I was able to make myself understood. And so did they (the Germans, Dutch, Austrians, Italians, Belgians, etc. .....and I spoke not one word of their languages. But they TOLERATED me, and took the time and effort, had the patience to work out a way to communicate. And get along. Not so in France. And so, I find virtually perfect sense in the flow of topics discussed here. "French gratitude" and "French tolerance" seem to be inexorably linked. And so "tolerance", especially in a wartime environment seems an appropriate road for this thread to have taken. We have, in Chit Chat, touched on these very subjects in virtually every thread. Is this a good or bad thing? Of course, this is a subjective decision for you, as a moderator to make. Whether this particular thread is appropriate is up to you alone. But, given the divisiveness and the intolerance of us to one another over the war seems so pertinent to what we must overcome to really "win' the war on terror. Any discussion on tolerance and intolerance can only help us to understand what we are up against world wide (as well as even just amongst ourselves). So France was a great example to use as a "jumping off topic" for any discussion of tolerance, and whatever else this thread has evolved into being. Peace, rs7
Hap, Glad to hear all of the above. Certainly I am not one to whom to look to for "approval". And I am relieved to know you are not in favor of executing ALL drug dealers. Keep up the good posts, and an open mind. Peace, Rs7
>>Are you running for the position of Minister of Information for Iraq or what?<< Optional, I don't know whom you are talking about there. I do however happen to know of a Minister of (Mis)information but he comes from Switserland freealways
It must come from Arabs or French of Arab origin who live in France. I can't see any french doing that kind of vulgar acts. I don't mean Arabs are vulgar by nature, I mean they have reasons to do so. Now it's very interesting how medias brainwash people in every country presenting the others as the bad so that eveybody has the impression to be the good ones. Like Religions, it is just a pretext for wars for the INTERNATIONAL wars interests which has no country no nation to defend just profits. And we, for the majority, are stupid enough to fight each other instead of fighting this Maffia Interest.
You're quite welcome - VDH is one of my favorites. There has been a lot of very interesting writing lately on relations to and within Europe. I recently ran across an essay entitled "Europe, Anti-Europe" by Collin May, on a blog called "Innocents Abroad." After an historical overview and a comparison of European and US attitudes toward the UN, international law, and economic policy, he draws some devastating historical parallels and reaches some very interesting conclusions: Quite a charge - you have to read the full essay to get a sense of its persuasiveness. Anyway, he goes on: He goes on to tie it directly to Iraq war coverage: Oh well, he screwed up the subject-verb agreement on the last sentence... but it's still a strong point... He drives it home later: He promises to move onto this last theme when he returns from a vacation... The whole thing's dated April 5, 2003 at: http://innocentsabroad.blogspot.com/