French Bank Trader Bet Tens of Billions

Discussion in 'Trading' started by trader_david, Jan 25, 2008.

  1. that guy must have the worst trading skill: averaging down. when the market down, keep buying, keep buying....

    gee, I once heard a trader put a bank into bankruptcy

    that is really a warning to all of us: gamblers or speaking sweetly speculators
  2. " Trading futures is gambling only when you trade them without full knowledge of what you are doing. There is a good measure of self-knowledge required to choose the proper course to follow if you want to become a trader. It has even been postulated that many small traders in the futures markets, without knowing it, secretly want to lose. They jump in with high hopes—but feeling vaguely guilty. Guilty over 'gambling' with the family's money, guilty over trying to get 'something for nothing,' or guilty over plunging in without really having done much research or analysis. Then they punish themselves, for these or other sins, by selling out, demoralized, at a loss.

    A trader is gambling when he/she trades from ignorance. The gambler makes his trading decisions on gut feelings, hopes, dreams of getting rich quick, tips from the broker, “inside information” from friends, and from the improper understanding and use of indicators, oscillators, moving averages, and mechanical trading systems. In general, he is looking for a way to shortcut having to truly learn what is going on. Unfortunately, most people who attempt to trade fall into this category.

    However, true trading is actually speculation (managed risk). The speculator is willing to accept the risk of price fluctuation in return for the greater leverage that comes with that risk in the hopes of earning a greater profit. The true speculator makes his trading decisions based on knowledge gathered from Information about the behavior of the underlying, seasonality, historical and current trends, chart analysis, fundamentals, the market dynamics, and knowledge of those who trade it. "
  3. P.S. Jesse Livermore was a lucky gambler with no notion of risk
  4. What makes people not think that he didn't have an accomplice front-running him at pre-agreed prices?

    Split the booty later...

    Why do they assume he can't profit from what he did?
  5. Supposedly, he was up huge at the end of the year. Kind of reminds me of someone else who never sold to take a profit and is now paying for it.......none other than our very own stock trad3r, god love him!
  6. lwlee


    CNBC said he wasn't even getting a piece of the profit. That I don't understand. No incentive to take risks.

    He must have done it for the glory or he's got the fever. GAMBLER's FEVER.
  7. Has anyone ever seen stock_turder and Jerome Kerviel in the same place? :p
  8. care to go more into detail ??

  9. betting it all in one direction with absolutely no regard for stops ......:D
  10. i forgot to add the sarcasm smiley...wait there isn't one :)
    #10     Jan 25, 2008