Free left tail convexity. Am I kidding myself?

Discussion in 'Options' started by tman, May 20, 2023.

  1. spy

    spy

    Cool. You see any good 3-D vol surface plotting code out there? I was messing around with this (from here) for a while. But, I'm always on the look out for something interesting and libre to toy with.
     
    #31     May 21, 2023
  2. tman

    tman

    Thank you for clarifying. I will look at that. The issue I have with that is that I don't think that the TOS analyze tab/model sufficiently incorporates vomma (volga). I don't have access to 2nd order greeks which would be very useful. I can intuit the positive effects of vomma having observed my book marking better than "expected" on the few trips VIX has taken around and above 30 since inception.
     
    #32     May 21, 2023
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  3. Can't say I've seen anything wonderful/unusual. The above is good enough for my purposes.
     
    #33     May 21, 2023
  4. spy

    spy

    Yeah, I know what you mean... it's the stitching together of the data w/ the pixels that's the real P.I.T.A.

    Omg, look at that... and with enough time to edit my post :) Ask and ye shall receive! Now I wonder how well this one has aged; time for some fun and games.
     
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    #34     May 21, 2023
  5. mervyn

    mervyn

    what is 2.5 delta?
     
    #35     May 21, 2023
  6. cesfx

    cesfx

    0.025, around 2700 2800 spx for 120days
     
    #36     May 22, 2023
  7. Nice strategy tman. I will create a backtest for it so see its results from 2018 till now (SPX)
    Moment of start is of course very important. If you had started in feb 2020 you had a tough time.
     
    #37     May 22, 2023
  8. I will start by selling 3 delta 2.5 and buying back 5 for less then credit received. If bought back, i will sell 3 again on 2.5 delta closes to 120 dte. Etc..
     
    #38     May 22, 2023
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  9. tman

    tman

    Exactly! Very path dependent. I was more lucky than smart but intend on monetizing into a larger structure. I've been trading long enough to know it's all about learning all the different ways to lose money. But this looks promising.
     
    #39     May 22, 2023
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  10. You can also sell front puts e.g 30DTE against the long puts (converting them to calendars) when vola is high. Chances that 30DTE puts with 30% distance become ITM are very small. With the credit received you can buy more calendars to expand the long vega.
     
    #40     May 22, 2023
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