Foundations of conservatism

Discussion in 'Politics' started by IShopAtPublix, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    You sure what you're hearing isn't the screams of under aged children in your neighborhood?
     
    #11     Nov 23, 2009
  2. How did that low tax and lack of banking regulation, lack of fiscal responsibility, deference to the wealthy work out for conservative Bush's economy?

    http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/dpc-new.cfm?doc_name=fs-109-2-140



     
    #12     Nov 23, 2009
  3. Are you seriously trying to say that in the long run politicians who believe in a moderate amount of entitlements tax more than politicians who believe in a high amount of entitlements?

    Would you say Sweden, France, Denmark, Italy and Canada are right or left of the US? Sweden spends 55.9% of their GDP on government expenditures. France spends 53.8% of their GDP on government expenditures. A very large majority of these expenditures are spent on social welfare programs. The average person in those countries pay around 35-40% of their income on taxes.

    The only way you could possibly make the argument that Republicans will end up taxing more than Democrats is if you claim that Republicans favor higher amounts of entitlements than Democrats. Could a logical person really make that argument Optional?
     
    #13     Nov 23, 2009
  4. Of the countries you quoted, list the % living below the poverty level, then compare that to the USA...

     
    #14     Nov 23, 2009
  5. Mav88

    Mav88

    4% GDP is not big, your tax bill for the military is quite low compared to social welfare schemes. Social welfare is and will be our economic downfall, not the military, the numbers tell the story.

    As mentioned conservatism simply means following the constitution so that gov't will stay the hell out of your life. The military is for dealing with foreign powers. Whether or not we should pay to protect people like the Swedes so that they can play socialist is another question.

    I am more anti-liberal than pro-conservative. Liberals with a social agenda are hate driven, liberals with an economic agenda are clueless folk who think gov't solves everything if only they can get enough of my money.
     
    #15     Nov 24, 2009
  6. +1
     
    #16     Nov 24, 2009
  7. i'm not for 'liberalism' either, but our debt has exploded into total self destruction ever since reagan, with 'voodo economics' as george bush called it in 1980
     
    #17     Nov 24, 2009
  8. dsq

    dsq

    how much is the annual budget for the military/welfare contracting business anyway?800billion ?Isnt that the same amount for healthcare over 10 yrs?Why is the military budget so high?There is no more cold war-what are we spending more on military now than during the 80s???How can we choose military over health?Whats up with these lack of priorities?

    The whole low tax ,big military mantra is a contradiction.You cant have one without the other.The gop bitches about 80billion a year for health care yet dont dont say dick about 800 billion a yr for military.Hipocrites.Somebody,somehow has to pay for it.Im glad that congress is thinking about taxing the rich to pay for this war.Since the rich support war but avoid serving in war they can at least walk the talk with their wallets.
     
    #18     Nov 24, 2009
  9. Christ almighty, you change the subject every chance you get.

    Face you it, you were wrong about taxes.
     
    #19     Nov 24, 2009
  10. Of course you don't get it. You are an Obama supporting liberal. By definition, you do not get it. Let me sum it up real quick.

    Its a very simply philosophy. If an individual cannot reasonably be expected to do it for themselves, then the Government provides it. The average person, or even Bill Gates for that matter, cannot reasonably be expected to field their own army and thus the government is responsible. The average person cannot be expected to pave their own roads, and thus the government is responsible.
     
    #20     Nov 24, 2009